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What most needs revision for the (hypothetical) 50th anniversary core books?
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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8286999" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>So the notion about backwards compatible does limit our options a bit. We have to color within the lines so to speak. My general list:</p><p></p><p><strong>Class Revisions</strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Switch short rests to Prof number per day. Its a good mechanic that helps standardizes the classes better.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cleric - Its powerful enough but it seems to rely way too heavily on Bless, Spiritual Weapon, and Spirit Guardians. Every cleric I have ever seen fundamentally looks the same, because they are all packing the same stuff at the end of the day.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Paladin - Its a solid class, but my personal pet peeve is there is no strong reason to have a good charisma until 6th level. Call me old fashioned, but I like that a paladin has a strong mechanical reason to be charismatic, and I would like to see that back for low level paladins.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sorcerer - Has just never quite felt right in this edition, something is missing here.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Monk - While it doesn't need as much love as some people think it does, there is still tuning here to be done.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><s>Ranger</s> - I think at this point no one will be satisfied with what they do with the ranger. Honestly the newest ranger with some of the newer subclasses seems pretty fun, my players like it.</li> </ul><p><strong>Feat Revisions</strong></p><p>Tuning some of the big feats like GWM or PAM, give some love to the lesser feats like Weapon Master. I don't need any real fundamental changes in feats, but we need a retune as about half the core feats I consider "bad" and have never seen a single player pick them up. I think its also high time we just gave player a feat or ability bump at 1st level.... there is a reason variant humans are SO popular compared to standard ones.</p><p></p><p><strong>Spell Revisions</strong></p><p>Too many to name. In order to be backwards compatible we can't change the concentration mechanic too much. But I do think we can introduce some limited ways to allow more than one concentration spell at a time. If nothing else, we should remove concentration from several spells in the book. There are spells that are deserving of concentration (Polymorph, Banishment), and those that absolutely do not need to be concentration (Immolation, Cause Fear - no spell that gives a save every round should be concentration imo).</p><p></p><p><strong>A Better Money Pit</strong></p><p>There needs to be more core gold sinks in the game. I respect we don't want magic shops by default, but when you hand treasure to your players and there reaction is...and I quote "hey look guys more worthless gold".... something needs to change.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 8286999, member: 5889"] So the notion about backwards compatible does limit our options a bit. We have to color within the lines so to speak. My general list: [B]Class Revisions[/B] [LIST] [*]Switch short rests to Prof number per day. Its a good mechanic that helps standardizes the classes better. [*]Cleric - Its powerful enough but it seems to rely way too heavily on Bless, Spiritual Weapon, and Spirit Guardians. Every cleric I have ever seen fundamentally looks the same, because they are all packing the same stuff at the end of the day. [*]Paladin - Its a solid class, but my personal pet peeve is there is no strong reason to have a good charisma until 6th level. Call me old fashioned, but I like that a paladin has a strong mechanical reason to be charismatic, and I would like to see that back for low level paladins. [*]Sorcerer - Has just never quite felt right in this edition, something is missing here. [*]Monk - While it doesn't need as much love as some people think it does, there is still tuning here to be done. [*][S]Ranger[/S] - I think at this point no one will be satisfied with what they do with the ranger. Honestly the newest ranger with some of the newer subclasses seems pretty fun, my players like it. [/LIST] [B]Feat Revisions[/B] Tuning some of the big feats like GWM or PAM, give some love to the lesser feats like Weapon Master. I don't need any real fundamental changes in feats, but we need a retune as about half the core feats I consider "bad" and have never seen a single player pick them up. I think its also high time we just gave player a feat or ability bump at 1st level.... there is a reason variant humans are SO popular compared to standard ones. [B]Spell Revisions[/B] Too many to name. In order to be backwards compatible we can't change the concentration mechanic too much. But I do think we can introduce some limited ways to allow more than one concentration spell at a time. If nothing else, we should remove concentration from several spells in the book. There are spells that are deserving of concentration (Polymorph, Banishment), and those that absolutely do not need to be concentration (Immolation, Cause Fear - no spell that gives a save every round should be concentration imo). [B]A Better Money Pit[/B] There needs to be more core gold sinks in the game. I respect we don't want magic shops by default, but when you hand treasure to your players and there reaction is...and I quote "hey look guys more worthless gold".... something needs to change. [/QUOTE]
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