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<blockquote data-quote="Vigilance" data-source="post: 4344531" data-attributes="member: 4275"><p>Well first, here's hoping you liked all those products of mine!</p><p></p><p>As regards to classes, both in my home GMing and my work, the preponderance of multi-classing, indeed, the REQUIREMENT of multi-classing, was my big issue with the Basic/Advanced/PrC set-up. </p><p></p><p>Even low level NPCs needed to be multi-classed, and basically from 1st level, you had to map out what you were taking, with an AdC in mind, and then a PrC after that.</p><p></p><p>It made statting up NPCs a HUGE pain, to the point that I hated doing it. In fact, my boss, RPGObjects owner Chris Davis, had heard me complain enough that he assumed I just didn't like statting up NPCs. </p><p></p><p>I then explained that doing NPCs in Modern20 didn't bother me at all, since multi-classing was optional*.</p><p></p><p>I've already answered this question in a way, because when I wrote Modern20 I set out to address certain issues I had had with D20M, as someone who had probably ran and written more for the game than anyone else.</p><p></p><p>It was interesting to me of course, that some of my issues were not other people's issues, and that whole discussion leading up to Modern20 was educational and informative. </p><p></p><p>Chuck</p><p></p><p>*Yes, I know multi-classing isn't technically required in d20M either, but in a pay product, I think taking the easy way out is cheap. People are paying me (ostensibly) to do something they'd rather not do themselves, or least spend more time on it than they would.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vigilance, post: 4344531, member: 4275"] Well first, here's hoping you liked all those products of mine! As regards to classes, both in my home GMing and my work, the preponderance of multi-classing, indeed, the REQUIREMENT of multi-classing, was my big issue with the Basic/Advanced/PrC set-up. Even low level NPCs needed to be multi-classed, and basically from 1st level, you had to map out what you were taking, with an AdC in mind, and then a PrC after that. It made statting up NPCs a HUGE pain, to the point that I hated doing it. In fact, my boss, RPGObjects owner Chris Davis, had heard me complain enough that he assumed I just didn't like statting up NPCs. I then explained that doing NPCs in Modern20 didn't bother me at all, since multi-classing was optional*. I've already answered this question in a way, because when I wrote Modern20 I set out to address certain issues I had had with D20M, as someone who had probably ran and written more for the game than anyone else. It was interesting to me of course, that some of my issues were not other people's issues, and that whole discussion leading up to Modern20 was educational and informative. Chuck *Yes, I know multi-classing isn't technically required in d20M either, but in a pay product, I think taking the easy way out is cheap. People are paying me (ostensibly) to do something they'd rather not do themselves, or least spend more time on it than they would. [/QUOTE]
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