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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5713985" data-attributes="member: 82106">The way to avoid min/maxing is for the DM to create a variety of situations. People who spend all their time and energy maxing their combat capability stumble around outside of a fight being a drag. Pretty soon the player spends a feat or two or picks a utility power, etc that lets them do something outside of combat, problem solved.Instead of making silos the answer is dual-use. There should be very few things that have no use only in or out of combat. 4e actually did a reasonable job of that with skills, most of them have explicit combat uses (some are pretty marginal or a bit dubious, but in general skills are dual-use). So the answer is to make more powers dual-use as well. In fact instead of creating artificial silos that force people to make their characters in certain ways I would remove the division of powers into attack and utility and make EVERY power dual-use, having both a combat function and a utility function. I guess there could be a FEW powers that only do one or the other, or are mainly one or the other, but even those should have a non-combat function spelled out, even if it is rather limited.All silos do is forbid perfectly good character concepts, or force people to do lame things like ignore half their class features in order to have a certain concept. I know you'll reply that "character who isn't much good in combat" is "not doing it right" and I agree that it isn't a type of character that has to be predominant, but there are plenty of situations where you might want to make a character that for instance starts out innocent and learns to fight, etc.</blockquote>

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