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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5715910" data-attributes="member: 2011">Interesting that Charisma became force of will (i.e. willpower) when that was always Wisdom. In fact, every single one of my PCs has superior self confidence, even with a Charisma of 8.  That's what happens when people try to fluff rationalize things. They invent new definitions of the ability score, just to shoe horn it into their fluff.One PC can use Int to outthink his foe, but another equally intelligent PC cannot.These are plausible to you because you have convinced yourself that they are plausible. Just because you've convinced yourself that the fluff works doesn't mean that it works for everyone, or even that it is consistently logical. It just means that you've rationalized it in your head.My personal magnetism, force of personality, ability to lead, and good looks, shouldn't make foes stand there and cower, and let me hit them easier and harder. I could fluff it that way, but it's fairly nonsensical. I love those cowering undead and constructs because of my good looks and forceful personality. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></blockquote>