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Message: <blockquote data-quote="marelion" data-source="post: 5728041" data-attributes="member: 6679828">I honestly  think that would make the bookkeeping even worse. I wanna play Dungeons & Dragons, not Archives and Accountants <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> I think it is consensus here on the board that 4E already suffers from too much tracking during encounters and your suggestion would add even more of that.While your option might help building thematically interesting encounter groups (think of the Planar Sphere Quest in BG II, where the devs placed large groups of elemental creatures) imho it requires too much effort to be of efficient use.And sapping healing surges to get rid of conditions sounds rather harsh as a penalty. The condition itself impaires chartacters quite a bit and spending surges on conditions makes consecutive encounters in the Paragon/Epic Tier practically impossible. And you would punish defenders for drawing fire. Their higher surge value would go wasted on the conditions, from which they would suffer the most. In our current paragon group our defender would be dry on surges after one encounter ( and he`s got 14 of them, so he does not qualify as squishy). It`s fine if the group consensus is the 15 min adventure day but any other gamestyle would feel  out of luck if your suggestions were to be the official guidelines.</blockquote>

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