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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5729284" data-attributes="member: 82106">Agreed. This is really the #1 improvement that needs to be made in 4e. I think tracking one condition, hit points, and which powers have been used is really as much as I'd like to see ideally (APs, HS, and death saves are OK as they're generally not something you have to pay a lot of attention to constantly). Anything that requires additional tracking mechanics IMHO should be pretty much rejected out of hand unless it is going to simplify things in some other way. My ideal would be a tracking burden similar to 1e AD&D, you track your hit points and maybe now and then there's a 'condition' of some sort that comes up. Generally the people I play with are fairly casual gamers. They are people that have played a good bit of D&D and they'll learn the 4e rules, but they're not into it for an intense tactical experience and don't usually get off on tracking tons of stuff. Frankly they don't care THAT much about super detailed in-depth tracking considerations. I think they would enjoy a '5e' that had fewer but more significant things to track. In general 4e does a decent job of making tracking fairly straightforward, but it definitely moves outside of a lot of player's comfort zones fairly often. This can get fairly problematic when you get into some of the more tracking-intensive classes like psionic classes or runepriests and such. It can also get bothersome at high levels or in situations where a lot of conditions and effects start getting tossed around.'5e' definitely needs to focus on this. Conditions could use some polishing, and effects should generally be less frequent and a bit more significant. I wouldn't at all mind if the more important ones were simply made into encounter durations either. Lets get rid of the plethora of durations and just generally simplify this whole aspect of the game as much as possible. It will make IMHO a HUGE difference in acceptance. 99% of the objections I've seen to 4e in practice (IE not on the boards) have been related to complex tracking requirements. It just slows the game down more than it is really worth.</blockquote>

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