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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 8851085" data-attributes="member: 4937">I think there is probably good evidence that giftedness at many things whether intelligence, artistic ability, or athletic ability is inherited.  Maybe not perfectly inherited, but definitely with statistically relevant chances.  And practical experience tells me that things like foot speed, mathematical ability and so forth can be trained but that every person has their own plateau.  Foot speed is not only a learned trait nor is it some random chance.  Your parentage matters.  While artistic ability is harder to measure, I know it isn't nothing and some people have more ability to draw representative art or produce musical scores as prodigies than I would ever have through training.This I think is going to bring you into a situation where you are at war with reality, not wanting the world to function the way it evidently does.Your reasoning that eugenics is wrong is not wrong, but your reasoning for why it is wrong certainly is.  And while this doesn't seem like a big deal as long as you get the answer right, the problem with answers that depend on bad foundations is undermining the foundation creates the perception that the answer probably isn't right either.</blockquote>