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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 8853361" data-attributes="member: 85555">Fair enough that debate has been driven into the ground, and there have been lengthy threads on it where we have all had opportunity to express our views. A couple of things. My concern is a lot less to do with the terminology and more to do with what demihumans actually are. I think since they have historically not been ethnicities but types of humanoids different from humans, turning them into ancestries, folk peoples, etc, is going to lead to far worse problems than say going with a term like type or species (for the reasons I gave earlier in the thread). But also, I think the concept of race in D&amp;D, whether it is literally called race or some other term, is crucial to what makes the game work. So the direction it sounds like they are going in (where you pick a trait inherited from your parents (which could be any number of things I assume) misses the simplicity of selecting a Race and getting a standard allotment of modifiers and abilities. For me that is just part of what makes D&amp;D, D&amp;D. There are plenty of other games that take a different approach to this part of character creation, and when I want that, I play those. But I do think switching to more narrow terms for race is going to lead to unforeseen issues for sure, if people are concerned about this somehow connecting to real world racism.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 8853361, member: 85555"] Fair enough that debate has been driven into the ground, and there have been lengthy threads on it where we have all had opportunity to express our views. A couple of things. My concern is a lot less to do with the terminology and more to do with what demihumans actually are. I think since they have historically not been ethnicities but types of humanoids different from humans, turning them into ancestries, folk peoples, etc, is going to lead to far worse problems than say going with a term like type or species (for the reasons I gave earlier in the thread). But also, I think the concept of race in D&D, whether it is literally called race or some other term, is crucial to what makes the game work. So the direction it sounds like they are going in (where you pick a trait inherited from your parents (which could be any number of things I assume) misses the simplicity of selecting a Race and getting a standard allotment of modifiers and abilities. For me that is just part of what makes D&D, D&D. There are plenty of other games that take a different approach to this part of character creation, and when I want that, I play those. But I do think switching to more narrow terms for race is going to lead to unforeseen issues for sure, if people are concerned about this somehow connecting to real world racism. [/QUOTE]

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