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<blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 8855165" data-attributes="member: 6787503">Okay? That doesn't seem to address whether it's a quality that might contribute to a people's depiction as being barbaric, primitive, or savage, or whether it's an apt description of the followers of Ares who may or may not be considered such a people, so I'm really not following.That's fair. The point I'm trying to make though, is that people have been called &quot;savages&quot; in order to depict them as violent, bestial, and primitive -- part of the natural world to be subdued by civilization. War (Ares) is also violent, so depicting a people (orcs) as warlike also serves that purpose.But that's the thing. People have all kinds of conceptions they're bringing, and you or I might not be aware of the impact certain ways of describing a people might have on the way that description ends up being received. I think they can do better than the new description. For one thing, they can avoid generalizing all orcs as tireless, mighty, and the toughest and most tenacious, especially when coupled with a narrative that depicts them as warriors that defend nature.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hriston, post: 8855165, member: 6787503"] Okay? That doesn't seem to address whether it's a quality that might contribute to a people's depiction as being barbaric, primitive, or savage, or whether it's an apt description of the followers of Ares who may or may not be considered such a people, so I'm really not following. That's fair. The point I'm trying to make though, is that people have been called "savages" in order to depict them as violent, bestial, and primitive -- part of the natural world to be subdued by civilization. War (Ares) is also violent, so depicting a people (orcs) as warlike also serves that purpose. But that's the thing. People have all kinds of conceptions they're bringing, and you or I might not be aware of the impact certain ways of describing a people might have on the way that description ends up being received. I think they can do better than the new description. For one thing, they can avoid generalizing all orcs as tireless, mighty, and the toughest and most tenacious, especially when coupled with a narrative that depicts them as warriors that defend nature. [/QUOTE]

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