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What new jargon do you want to replace "Race"?
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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 8856011" data-attributes="member: 85555"><p>People are reading way too much into a person's personal morality and ethics based on views of tropes. I can definitely see how you might find this trope racist, and I think someone using this trope to advance racist views in the real world would certainly be racist and morally bad, but I don't think a person feeling like the trope isn't the problem you think it is (or feeling it can work handled in certain ways) makes them racist (nor does it mean they like racist tropes). We used to be able to discuss media and disagree over analysis and meaning. Some people would see a particular trope as bad or good. And I do think it is fair for a company like WOTC, to err on the side of cautious because it has a large audience and a misunderstanding over a trope, could really harm their brand. But it is also enormously stifling for the arts and for gaming as a hobby when have let overly rigid attitudes about this stuff become almost like law. I don't know Scott Christian as a person and I only know some of his posts, but I wouldn't use his position in this discussion to formulate an opinion about him in the real world (beyond what kind of media he likes and whether I think his tastes are good or bad) and same for you. I don't think these things have been as objectively settled, nor do I believe they ever will be. </p><p></p><p>I personally don't like using evil orcs. Not on moral grounds. I just find evil orc worlds dull (I even find LOTR's a bit dull for this reason, despite otherwise enjoying the trilogy). But I get why some people might, in the context of a game, want a race of monsters they can mindlessly swing swords at for an evening to blow off steam. I don't think it comes from a dark place. It is probably cathartic. Anyone who has played a shoot em up can probably see why 'evil monster that needs to be killed' can work as a concept. It doesn't have to be nefarious.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 8856011, member: 85555"] People are reading way too much into a person's personal morality and ethics based on views of tropes. I can definitely see how you might find this trope racist, and I think someone using this trope to advance racist views in the real world would certainly be racist and morally bad, but I don't think a person feeling like the trope isn't the problem you think it is (or feeling it can work handled in certain ways) makes them racist (nor does it mean they like racist tropes). We used to be able to discuss media and disagree over analysis and meaning. Some people would see a particular trope as bad or good. And I do think it is fair for a company like WOTC, to err on the side of cautious because it has a large audience and a misunderstanding over a trope, could really harm their brand. But it is also enormously stifling for the arts and for gaming as a hobby when have let overly rigid attitudes about this stuff become almost like law. I don't know Scott Christian as a person and I only know some of his posts, but I wouldn't use his position in this discussion to formulate an opinion about him in the real world (beyond what kind of media he likes and whether I think his tastes are good or bad) and same for you. I don't think these things have been as objectively settled, nor do I believe they ever will be. I personally don't like using evil orcs. Not on moral grounds. I just find evil orc worlds dull (I even find LOTR's a bit dull for this reason, despite otherwise enjoying the trilogy). But I get why some people might, in the context of a game, want a race of monsters they can mindlessly swing swords at for an evening to blow off steam. I don't think it comes from a dark place. It is probably cathartic. Anyone who has played a shoot em up can probably see why 'evil monster that needs to be killed' can work as a concept. It doesn't have to be nefarious. [/QUOTE]
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