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<blockquote data-quote="Scott Christian" data-source="post: 8856072" data-attributes="member: 6901101">For the record, in my setting, the gods don't appear, don't grant powers, and are more akin to ideologies. They certainly can't cause a species to be evil. So, just to be clear, I don't use that trope at all at my gaming table. But I have as a player been at tables whose mythos had that. No one seemed to mind.And regarding the bold: Who decided it isn't a good look anymore? Hollywood? Nope. They seem to do it in almost every fantasy/sci-fi/superhero movie there is. Novelists? Nope. They do it as much as Hollywood. Game designers like D&amp;D? Nope, they still do it all the time too. They're just pickier about who they do it too. But go ahead and kill all those frost giants that are evil - even though they are sentient beings with freewill that have a culture. But make a goliath evil and they are using racist tropes? My claim is simple, it's hypocritical. And as a side note, throw out the god debate then. Use plane-touched. Use a curse from a witch. Use a virus that was implanted in the species and passed down through DNA. None of those things are attached to a racist trope. Can those be used?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scott Christian, post: 8856072, member: 6901101"] For the record, in my setting, the gods don't appear, don't grant powers, and are more akin to ideologies. They certainly can't cause a species to be evil. So, just to be clear, I don't use that trope at all at my gaming table. But I have as a player been at tables whose mythos had that. No one seemed to mind. And regarding the bold: Who decided it isn't a good look anymore? Hollywood? Nope. They seem to do it in almost every fantasy/sci-fi/superhero movie there is. Novelists? Nope. They do it as much as Hollywood. Game designers like D&D? Nope, they still do it all the time too. They're just pickier about who they do it too. But go ahead and kill all those frost giants that are evil - even though they are sentient beings with freewill that have a culture. But make a goliath evil and they are using racist tropes? My claim is simple, it's hypocritical. And as a side note, throw out the god debate then. Use plane-touched. Use a curse from a witch. Use a virus that was implanted in the species and passed down through DNA. None of those things are attached to a racist trope. Can those be used? [/QUOTE]

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