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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 8857485" data-attributes="member: 58172">[USER=12251]@glass[/USER]Your use of the words &quot;Watsonian&quot; versus &quot;Doyleist&quot;, intrigued me.I explored their meanings, and they and related terms are useful for the D&amp;D community.I am mentioning my findings here. Heh, as a community service.The terms relate to Sherlock Holmes novels. The reallife author is Doyle. But the fictional author within the stories is Watson. Hence:Watsonian = intradiegetic = in-setting explanationDoyleist = extradiegetic = in-reallife explanationThe words intradiegetic (in-setting explanation) and extradiegetic (in-reallife explanation) are neologisms that derive from the English term diegetic.The pronunciation of diegetic is [daɪ.ə.'dʒɛ.tɪk], like die-eh-JET-ic.Whence intra-diegetic and extra-diegetic pronounce similarly.The term diegetic happens especially in film studies. It comes from the Greek term diegetikos (διηγητικός), which means the adjective &quot;narrative&quot;, relating to narration, from diegesis (διήγησις), which means the noun &quot;narration&quot;, or a narrative.The pronunciation of diegesis is [daɪ.ə.'dʒi.sɪs], like die-eh-JEE-sis.The film usage is &quot;mimesis&quot; (μίμησις) versus &quot;diegesis&quot;. Mimemis [mɪ.ˈmi.sɪs], mim-EE-sis, is when the viewer watches it happen in the film. Diegesis is when there is someone in the film narrating what happened. Basically, &quot;show&quot; versus &quot;tell&quot;.So, &quot;intradiegetic&quot; is a fancy way of saying &quot;in-setting&quot; (or in-world, or in-universe, referring to the fictional setting). But intradiegetic emphasizes the narrative explanation of how something happens.By contrast, &quot;extradiegetic&quot; is a fancy way of saying &quot;in-reallife&quot;, but emphasizes the explanation for why it is that way.For example, in D&amp;D, the intradiegesis for spell slots might be that magical energy comes in quantifiable packets of energy, and that this is a curious property of the multiverse Weave, whose insights can reveal a deeper understanding of magic. But the extradiegesis for spell slots is they are a transmission from earlier 1e, when they served as a way to translate fiction by Vance about magic into rules for a game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 8857485, member: 58172"] [USER=12251]@glass[/USER] Your use of the words "Watsonian" versus "Doyleist", intrigued me. I explored their meanings, and they and related terms are useful for the D&D community. I am mentioning my findings here. Heh, as a community service. The terms relate to Sherlock Holmes novels. The reallife author is Doyle. But the fictional author within the stories is Watson. Hence: Watsonian = [B]intradiegetic[/B] = in-setting explanation Doyleist = [B]extradiegetic[/B] = in-reallife explanation The words intradiegetic (in-setting explanation) and extradiegetic (in-reallife explanation) are neologisms that derive from the English term [B]diegetic[/B]. The pronunciation of diegetic is [daɪ.ə.'dʒɛ.tɪk], like die-eh-JET-ic. Whence intra-diegetic and extra-diegetic pronounce similarly. The term diegetic happens especially in film studies. It comes from the Greek term diegetikos (διηγητικός), which means the adjective "narrative", relating to narration, from [B]diegesis [/B](διήγησις), which means the noun "narration", or a narrative. The pronunciation of diegesis is [daɪ.ə.'dʒi.sɪs], like die-eh-JEE-sis. The film usage is "mimesis" (μίμησις) versus "diegesis". Mimemis [mɪ.ˈmi.sɪs], mim-EE-sis, is when the viewer watches it happen in the film. Diegesis is when there is someone in the film narrating what happened. Basically, "show" versus "tell". So, "intradiegetic" is a fancy way of saying "in-setting" (or in-world, or in-universe, referring to the fictional setting). But intradiegetic emphasizes the narrative explanation of how something happens. By contrast, "extradiegetic" is a fancy way of saying "in-reallife", but emphasizes the explanation for why it is that way. For example, in D&D, the [B]intradiegesis[/B] for spell slots might be that magical energy comes in quantifiable packets of energy, and that this is a curious property of the multiverse Weave, whose insights can reveal a deeper understanding of magic. But the [B]extradiegesis [/B]for spell slots is they are a transmission from earlier 1e, when they served as a way to translate fiction by Vance about magic into rules for a game. [/QUOTE]

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