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<blockquote data-quote="Scott Christian" data-source="post: 8863791" data-attributes="member: 6901101">I think it is very clear that some of the abilities are learned through their culture and others are innate. Here are some quotes out of the PHB:&quot;As a forest gnome, you have a natural knack for illusion and inherent quickness and stealth.&quot;&quot;As a rock gnome, you have a natural inventiveness and hardiness...&quot;&quot;Your half-orc character has certain traits deriving from your orc ancestry.&quot;&quot;As a stout halfling, you're hardier than average and have some resistance to poison. Some say that stouts have dwarven blood.&quot;&quot;Your elf character has a variety of natural abilities, the results of thousands of years of elven refinement.&quot;&quot;Your dwarf character has an assortment of inborn abilities, the part and parcel of dwarven nature.&quot;So when you have clarifiers like these prior to listing a species traits, which include resiliencies and vision and magic use, then many people can, and should, assume that much of these are innate. If Wizards wants to change all that, that's fine. But it is incorrect to call the other people revisionists when these things are stated as such.Edit: I get that you are implying that it is both too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scott Christian, post: 8863791, member: 6901101"] I think it is very clear that some of the abilities are learned through their culture and others are innate. Here are some quotes out of the PHB: "As a forest gnome, you have a [I]natural[/I] knack for illusion and [I]inherent[/I] quickness and stealth." "As a rock gnome, you have a [I]natural[/I] inventiveness and hardiness..." "Your half-orc character has certain traits [I]deriving from your orc ancestry[/I]." "As a stout halfling, you're hardier than average and have some resistance to poison. Some say that stouts have [I]dwarven blood[/I]." "Your elf character has a variety of [I]natural[/I] abilities, the results of [I]thousands of years of elven refinement[/I]." "Your dwarf character has an assortment of [I]inborn[/I] abilities, the part and parcel of dwarven [I]nature[/I]." So when you have clarifiers like these prior to listing a species traits, which include resiliencies and vision and magic use, then many people can, and should, assume that much of these are innate. If Wizards wants to change all that, that's fine. But it is incorrect to call the other people revisionists when these things are stated as such. Edit: I get that you are implying that it is both too. [/QUOTE]

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