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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 8867983" data-attributes="member: 58172">Gygax, in his AD&amp;D Monster Manual in 1974, uses both terms, &quot;Species&quot; and &quot;Race&quot;. He uses these two terms interchangeably.Species = RaceFor example.(29) &quot;The ten species of dragons have three general size categories (small, average, and huge). ... This size determination indicates the number of hit dice a dragon has.&quot;(33) &quot;The race of green dragons prefer to locate their underground lairs in or near woods or forests of the bleaker wilder sort if possible.&quot;(34) &quot;The red dragon is usually found dwelling in great hills or mountainous regions. As with most others of this species, they make their lairs in subterranean coves and similar places.&quot;Reallife scientific taxonomy is a normal part of the D&amp;D tradition.(22) Note, Gygax refers to the scientific taxonomy of his day, albeit today the nomenclature is shown to be imprecise and no longer in use: &quot;Dinosaurs are reptiles, ... descended from a variety of the species called thecodonts. The two orders of dinosaurs are saurischians and ornisthischians.&quot; Notice, a later different species can descend from an earlier species.(82) &quot;Woolly Rhinoceros: A large, very aggressive species of rhinoceros which roams the cold temperate and subarctic regions of the Pleistocene epoch, the woolly rhino conforms to the characteristics of its modern relatives.&quot;(61) &quot;Mountain lion: This creature is not actually a true lion, but a species of great cat.&quot;(87) &quot;Giant Shark (Megalodon): Giant white sharks and prehistoric species of sharks range in size from 20' to 50', the largest being the prehistoric sharks.&quot;Examples of humanlike species.Note, in AD&amp;D jargon, the terms &quot;Species&quot; and &quot;Race&quot; are the same meaning. Gygax sometimes refers to the human Species and sometimes the human Race. (Gygax can get into trouble when describing some humanlike Species to be as if a culture. But he does mean Species whenever he says Race.)(39) &quot;All half-elves are of human stock. They are handsome folk, with the good features of each of their races. They mingle freely with either race.&quot;(96) &quot;Treants are strangely related to humans and trees, combining features of both species.&quot; In AD&amp;D, the human is a &quot;species&quot;, and the treant apparently relates to a specific species of tree.(53) &quot;Koolinth: A marine species of hobgoblin with gills. They are similar to their land-dwelling cousins in most respect.&quot;(60) &quot;Rumor has it leprechauns are a species of halfling with a strong strain of pixie.&quot;Maybe certain Settings prefer the antiquated flavor of the term &quot;Race&quot;, but the D&amp;D game itself often employs the jargon &quot;Species&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 8867983, member: 58172"] [B]Gygax[/B], in his AD&D [B]Monster Manual[/B] in 1974, uses both terms, "Species" and "Race". He uses these two terms interchangeably. Species = Race For example. (29) "The ten [B]species[/B] of [I]dragons[/I] have three general size categories (small, average, and huge). ... This size determination indicates the number of hit dice a dragon has." (33) "The [B]race[/B] of [I]green dragons[/I] prefer to locate their underground lairs in or near woods or forests of the bleaker wilder sort if possible." (34) "The [I]red dragon[/I] is usually found dwelling in great hills or mountainous regions. As with most others of this [B]species[/B], they make their lairs in subterranean coves and similar places." Reallife scientific taxonomy is a normal part of the D&D tradition. (22) Note, Gygax refers to the scientific taxonomy of his day, albeit today the nomenclature is shown to be imprecise and no longer in use: "Dinosaurs are reptiles, ... descended from a variety of the [B]species[/B] called [I]thecodonts[/I]. The two [B]orders [/B]of dinosaurs are saurischians and ornisthischians." Notice, a later different species can descend from an earlier species. (82) "[I]Woolly Rhinoceros[/I]: A large, very aggressive [B]species[/B] of rhinoceros which roams the cold temperate and subarctic regions of the Pleistocene epoch, the woolly rhino conforms to the characteristics of its modern relatives." (61) "[I]Mountain lion[/I]: This creature is not actually a true lion, but a [B]species[/B] of great cat." (87) "Giant Shark ([I]Megalodon[/I]): Giant white sharks and prehistoric [B]species[/B] of sharks range in size from 20' to 50', the largest being the prehistoric sharks." Examples of humanlike species. Note, in AD&D jargon, the terms "Species" and "Race" are the same meaning. Gygax sometimes refers to the human Species and sometimes the human Race. (Gygax can get into trouble when describing some humanlike Species to be as if a culture. But he does mean Species whenever he says Race.) (39) "All half-[I]elves[/I] are of [I]human[/I] stock. They are handsome folk, with the good features of each of their [B]races[/B]. They mingle freely with either [B]race[/B]." (96) "Treants are strangely related to [I]humans[/I] and [I]trees[/I], combining features of both [B]species[/B]." In AD&D, the human is a "species", and the treant apparently relates to a specific species of tree. (53) "[I]Koolinth:[/I] A marine [B]species[/B] of [I]hobgoblin[/I] with gills. They are similar to their land-dwelling cousins in most respect." (60) "Rumor has it [I]leprechauns[/I] are a [B]species[/B] of halfling with a strong strain of pixie." Maybe certain Settings prefer the antiquated flavor of the term "Race", but the D&D game itself often employs the jargon "Species". [/QUOTE]

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