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What new jargon do you want to replace "Race"?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hex08" data-source="post: 8868750" data-attributes="member: 7029595"><p>First, I wasn't justifying racism and if you think I was then you are wrong (if you weren't accusing me then that's fine). Second, maybe casually was the wrong word, perhaps unintentionally or oblivious to the possible racism would have been more appropriate, but they certainly weren't being deliberately racist and there is a difference whether or not you believe that to be the case. You <strong><em>do</em></strong> need to be in someone's head before you can justifiably start casting stones. Was and is racism wrong? Yes. However, accusing someone of intentional racism because they were a product of their times is historically naive, everyone is a product of their time (and other factors) and will generally act accordingly. There is no reason to believe that specific people (in this case D&D writers and designers) of prior generations had any hatred for a particular group or thought them less than human, they were simply acting in accordance with their time but intended no harm. There is a world of difference between that kind of behavior and holding hatred in your heart and intentionally trying to hurt someone. Odds are future generations will find fault with something you believe. That's what happens; time moves on and cultural morays change. As time moves on hopefully we all become better but painting whole groups of people with a single brush isn't going to get us there.</p><p></p><p>Regardless, this is a conversation that is going to go in circles so I will bow out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hex08, post: 8868750, member: 7029595"] First, I wasn't justifying racism and if you think I was then you are wrong (if you weren't accusing me then that's fine). Second, maybe casually was the wrong word, perhaps unintentionally or oblivious to the possible racism would have been more appropriate, but they certainly weren't being deliberately racist and there is a difference whether or not you believe that to be the case. You [B][I]do[/I][/B] need to be in someone's head before you can justifiably start casting stones. Was and is racism wrong? Yes. However, accusing someone of intentional racism because they were a product of their times is historically naive, everyone is a product of their time (and other factors) and will generally act accordingly. There is no reason to believe that specific people (in this case D&D writers and designers) of prior generations had any hatred for a particular group or thought them less than human, they were simply acting in accordance with their time but intended no harm. There is a world of difference between that kind of behavior and holding hatred in your heart and intentionally trying to hurt someone. Odds are future generations will find fault with something you believe. That's what happens; time moves on and cultural morays change. As time moves on hopefully we all become better but painting whole groups of people with a single brush isn't going to get us there. Regardless, this is a conversation that is going to go in circles so I will bow out. [/QUOTE]
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