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What 'new' rules would you like to see in 4e?
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<blockquote data-quote="DamnedChoir" data-source="post: 4051030" data-attributes="member: 56141"><p>Stunts (Honestly, this was my favorite thing from Iron Heroes, stunts, skill tricks, the ability to kick off of walls, do leap attacks, etc. If they don't put in in 4E they've missed an important opportunity to do some awesome.)</p><p></p><p>Chase Mechanics (Honestly I'd just be happier if anything other than race affected movement speed.)</p><p></p><p>The Ability For Non-Rogues to ambush and have it be useful. (Seriously, sneak attack is good and all but when the only viable tactic for a Fighter is to rush headlong into a group of 8 bugbears since an ambush doesn't give any numerical bonus anyways, there's a problem.)</p><p></p><p>Variable Fighting Styles for classes. (I dont' expect this because I've already heard Fighters will be EXPECTED to wear Heavy Armor and that they can go two hander or sword and board. However, it'd be nice if anyone could choose what type of armor and weapons to be proficient in since there's no spell failure now. Obviously the Wizard wouldn't be anywhere near as good as the Fighter but still it'd be nice to play a Lightly Armored Defender rather than having to shoehorn each class into a place it doesn't always necessarily fill well.)</p><p></p><p>Ritual Magic (It would be nice, honestly, I'd be happy if spell casters could attempt to cast spells above their level with catastrophic results. It's so thematic.)</p><p></p><p>Expansive Talent Trees (What I'd honestly consider my dream is not to do it like SAGA Edition, but rather have one Talent Tree for each power source, Race, Role, and Class, as well as a generic pool of talents that anyone can take.)</p><p></p><p>Maybe it's a bit off-topic, but to continue on that last point it'd be cool if all Martial characters had access to one talent tree, all Strikers one talent tree, all Elves, etc. That way two Martial characters can both learn cool weapon moves, but one might have Elf and Striker trees, the other with Dwarf and Defender trees. It'd be nice, I really don't like SAGA that much other than a few of the things they did like perception and defenses. I don't know why people harp it so much.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DamnedChoir, post: 4051030, member: 56141"] Stunts (Honestly, this was my favorite thing from Iron Heroes, stunts, skill tricks, the ability to kick off of walls, do leap attacks, etc. If they don't put in in 4E they've missed an important opportunity to do some awesome.) Chase Mechanics (Honestly I'd just be happier if anything other than race affected movement speed.) The Ability For Non-Rogues to ambush and have it be useful. (Seriously, sneak attack is good and all but when the only viable tactic for a Fighter is to rush headlong into a group of 8 bugbears since an ambush doesn't give any numerical bonus anyways, there's a problem.) Variable Fighting Styles for classes. (I dont' expect this because I've already heard Fighters will be EXPECTED to wear Heavy Armor and that they can go two hander or sword and board. However, it'd be nice if anyone could choose what type of armor and weapons to be proficient in since there's no spell failure now. Obviously the Wizard wouldn't be anywhere near as good as the Fighter but still it'd be nice to play a Lightly Armored Defender rather than having to shoehorn each class into a place it doesn't always necessarily fill well.) Ritual Magic (It would be nice, honestly, I'd be happy if spell casters could attempt to cast spells above their level with catastrophic results. It's so thematic.) Expansive Talent Trees (What I'd honestly consider my dream is not to do it like SAGA Edition, but rather have one Talent Tree for each power source, Race, Role, and Class, as well as a generic pool of talents that anyone can take.) Maybe it's a bit off-topic, but to continue on that last point it'd be cool if all Martial characters had access to one talent tree, all Strikers one talent tree, all Elves, etc. That way two Martial characters can both learn cool weapon moves, but one might have Elf and Striker trees, the other with Dwarf and Defender trees. It'd be nice, I really don't like SAGA that much other than a few of the things they did like perception and defenses. I don't know why people harp it so much. [/QUOTE]
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