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<blockquote data-quote="David Argall" data-source="post: 610187" data-attributes="member: 4481">This &amp; thatPsonics-They started off so gross, they are now guilty until proven innocent of game imbalance, and the very need to prove their innocence throws them out of the core.&nbsp; {&amp; the pleas for their inclusion are close to being evidence they are still too powerful to be acceptable.}&nbsp;&nbsp; Sorcerer - is a powerful class.&nbsp; No need to give it more goodies, at least not without doing the same for wizard.&nbsp; After all, your wizard/wiseman is supposed to be the one with all the knowledge, etc.&nbsp; Why should the sorcerer have greater skills?&nbsp;&nbsp; Orcs, kobolds, etc - does not belong in core rules.&nbsp; Additional rules, great.&nbsp; MM should show how to make most races PC races.&nbsp; But 6 base PC races are quite enough.&nbsp; We have human, of course, elf, dwarf, and gnome from well known myth, the hobbi..er halfling from LOTR, and the half-orc for the misunderstood guy.&nbsp; What common cliche needs to be added?&nbsp; More alternate rules?&nbsp; The very fact they are alternate rules shows they do not go in core.&nbsp;&nbsp; 5' step-no Aoo, 30' move-Aoo is an inconsistency that needs to be corrected.&nbsp; &nbsp; A minor point.&nbsp; Most fighter types are cross class to &quot;profession-soldier&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; Urban ranger?&nbsp; Leave it to the expansion books.&nbsp; We need to concentrate on making ranger a class anybody wants to take additional levels in.&nbsp; The barbarian is also a class that needs less at low level and more at high.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="David Argall, post: 610187, member: 4481"] [b]This & that[/b] Psonics-They started off so gross, they are now guilty until proven innocent of game imbalance, and the very need to prove their innocence throws them out of the core. {& the pleas for their inclusion are close to being evidence they are still too powerful to be acceptable.} Sorcerer - is a powerful class. No need to give it more goodies, at least not without doing the same for wizard. After all, your wizard/wiseman is supposed to be the one with all the knowledge, etc. Why should the sorcerer have greater skills? Orcs, kobolds, etc - does not belong in core rules. Additional rules, great. MM should show how to make most races PC races. But 6 base PC races are quite enough. We have human, of course, elf, dwarf, and gnome from well known myth, the hobbi..er halfling from LOTR, and the half-orc for the misunderstood guy. What common cliche needs to be added? More alternate rules? The very fact they are alternate rules shows they do not go in core. 5' step-no Aoo, 30' move-Aoo is an inconsistency that needs to be corrected. A minor point. Most fighter types are cross class to "profession-soldier". Urban ranger? Leave it to the expansion books. We need to concentrate on making ranger a class anybody wants to take additional levels in. The barbarian is also a class that needs less at low level and more at high. [/QUOTE]

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