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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fuindordm" data-source="post: 635537" data-attributes="member: 5435">I like the idea of favored classes, but I don't like the mechanic.  Any xp penalty at all would seem too high, and there are a lot of valid character concepts that don't make it through the filter.  If it's scrapped, though, you need to give a little bonus to the humans and half-elves who are losing their advantage.  But only a very minor bonus.Boy, I remember when no one played humans at all because their only advantage never came into play in most campaigns.  But I agree that most campaign worlds should be humanocentric, simply because players like to identify with their characters and I think they enjoy the world more when it's at least vaguely familiar.I also remember when no one played clerics unless they were forced to--now it seems that everyone plays clerics (although to be fair, this trend started with FR's Faiths and Avatars, which effectively introduced a couple of dozen new character classes which were like clerics but better).  For clerics, at least, the pendulum has now swung too far I think--many of the most potent wizard spells have found their way into cleric domains, and the extra special abilities that the domains grant are often very powerful (but cool). I think druids are fine, actually.  It's true that they suffer when compared against the cleric, but so does everyone else.Here's what I would do for the cleric:The Basic Cleric would have d6 HD, medium armor prof., shields, simple weapons, and 4 skill points per level.  They would still channel +/- energy and spontaneously cast healing/inflicting.  I wholly agree with WotC's rationale that this brings more clerical spells into play, and is a very good thing.  The basic clerical spell list, however, would get only the spells that are really common--mostly healing, divination,and protection spells with a smattering of traditional favorites like Command and Flame Strike.The domains would often contain more than one spell per level, and would also expand the basic functionality.  So a cleric of the War domain would get d8 HD, heavy armor and martial weapons as their domain power, for example. The healing domain could also bump up the HD to a d8 in addition to granting bonuses to healing spells. All domain spells would be added to the cleric's list, and could be prepared multiple times as normal.  Rather than filling out the domains with powerful wizard spells like Power Word Kill and Chain Lightning, new and useful spells would be created which really match the domain well. The occasional wizard spell in a domain list is OK, but it should be at least one level higher for clerics if it's a good spell.--Ben</blockquote>

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