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<blockquote data-quote="Patrick Lewis1" data-source="post: 8765983" data-attributes="member: 6880093"><p>No not at all. Its not OK for Glantri to be racist. ITS NEVER OK TO BE RACIST.</p><p></p><p>Its not OK at all, thats kinda the point. Players should want to change it....</p><p></p><p> Glantri is seen as a fundamentally unpleasant nation by most other nations in the Mystara setting in game world, its a place of horror settings. It is overtly racist in setting, seen by other nations a fundamentalist and extremist. And its very classist too, only magic users and elves having political rights to be princes. In the original gazzetter there was a beginners campaign in which students( Magic users) attended the school of magic and could have chosen to subvert the political system of the setting. In fact the mega campaign in Wrath of the Immortals fundamentally alters alot of the power dynamics in Glantri as well as another Lycanthropy supplement in which you could be revolutionary were creatures fighting against tyranny. I think we can still have a laugh whilst playing in that setting. I think characters can play diabolical without being actual bigots.</p><p></p><p>The similarities with the attending a magical school were what made me think of potter. Although I would argue that actually perhaps the setting will increasingly be seen as problematic, Its kids fighting a resurgent Evil yes. But the secret wizarding world has quite alot of unpleseant elements too and in an RPG campaign they'd be interesting to take on. There wider societal villany in Potter thats kinda ignored, wizards secretly ruling muggles and having slaves etc. I think playing in the Potterverse as is maybe more insensative than Glantri in flux. Potterverse with social/political change could be really interesting.</p><p></p><p>Settings where goverments are despotic and laws are unjust seem pretty normal in fantasy, i've run alot of rebellion vs empire star wars redressed in medieval fantasy. Lots of Robin Hood stuff. </p><p></p><p>Apolgies if I took us off the thread...sorry Mystara lead to Glantri which made me think Hogwarts.</p><p></p><p>And to be clear having bigots as bad guys in your game does not make your game bigotted. Having morally dubious characters does not make the players morally dubious. And having a setting with evil in it does not make you supportive of evil ideas.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Patrick Lewis1, post: 8765983, member: 6880093"] No not at all. Its not OK for Glantri to be racist. ITS NEVER OK TO BE RACIST. Its not OK at all, thats kinda the point. Players should want to change it.... Glantri is seen as a fundamentally unpleasant nation by most other nations in the Mystara setting in game world, its a place of horror settings. It is overtly racist in setting, seen by other nations a fundamentalist and extremist. And its very classist too, only magic users and elves having political rights to be princes. In the original gazzetter there was a beginners campaign in which students( Magic users) attended the school of magic and could have chosen to subvert the political system of the setting. In fact the mega campaign in Wrath of the Immortals fundamentally alters alot of the power dynamics in Glantri as well as another Lycanthropy supplement in which you could be revolutionary were creatures fighting against tyranny. I think we can still have a laugh whilst playing in that setting. I think characters can play diabolical without being actual bigots. The similarities with the attending a magical school were what made me think of potter. Although I would argue that actually perhaps the setting will increasingly be seen as problematic, Its kids fighting a resurgent Evil yes. But the secret wizarding world has quite alot of unpleseant elements too and in an RPG campaign they'd be interesting to take on. There wider societal villany in Potter thats kinda ignored, wizards secretly ruling muggles and having slaves etc. I think playing in the Potterverse as is maybe more insensative than Glantri in flux. Potterverse with social/political change could be really interesting. Settings where goverments are despotic and laws are unjust seem pretty normal in fantasy, i've run alot of rebellion vs empire star wars redressed in medieval fantasy. Lots of Robin Hood stuff. Apolgies if I took us off the thread...sorry Mystara lead to Glantri which made me think Hogwarts. And to be clear having bigots as bad guys in your game does not make your game bigotted. Having morally dubious characters does not make the players morally dubious. And having a setting with evil in it does not make you supportive of evil ideas. [/QUOTE]
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