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<blockquote data-quote="TimeOut" data-source="post: 4289478" data-attributes="member: 68543">That depends on the implementation and description. Based on a 4e example: If you just say &quot;The kobold is marked and gets a -2 on all attacks, except for attacks against the fighter&quot;, that is a completely gamist description. But you could redo the same description like &quot;The kobold is locked into a brutal melee with the fighter, their weapons clash and one tries valiantly&nbsp; to find an opening in the others defense. Their struggle is so intense, that it has become really hard for the kobold to focus its attention elsewhere.&quot;Suddenly you have a much better description of aggro control.Crowd control is not the same as aggro control. Crowd control disables monsters, while aggro control helps control who they will attack.Yes, maybe. I never said that the 4e approach was any good, but it is still better then nothing.Why not? There is no shame to steal from MMOs or other genres, games or media, if the concepts are good. If you dislike the concept, don't steal it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TimeOut, post: 4289478, member: 68543"] That depends on the implementation and description. Based on a 4e example: If you just say "The kobold is marked and gets a -2 on all attacks, except for attacks against the fighter", that is a completely gamist description. But you could redo the same description like "The kobold is locked into a brutal melee with the fighter, their weapons clash and one tries valiantly to find an opening in the others defense. Their struggle is so intense, that it has become really hard for the kobold to focus its attention elsewhere." Suddenly you have a much better description of aggro control. Crowd control is not the same as aggro control. Crowd control disables monsters, while aggro control helps control who they will attack. Yes, maybe. I never said that the 4e approach was any good, but it is still better then nothing. Why not? There is no shame to steal from MMOs or other genres, games or media, if the concepts are good. If you dislike the concept, don't steal it. [/QUOTE]

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