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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4298908" data-attributes="member: 710">Yes. It comes of as an insult. "You're not really playing a role-playing game, you know that, eh? I am _so_ above you and your childish games..."Both sides are silly, of course.I mean, why should I be insulted by that?"Okay, so you are saying that I am just pretending to be pretending to be an elf, while you are _really_ pretending to be an elf?"And why should anyone be actually interesting in throwing an insult? Off course, it might also not actually be meant as an insult. If someone feels it's like a video-game, well, then that's his feeling. Feelings are subjective. Trying to use objective reasoning to eliminate a feeling is not necessarily guaranteed for failure, but it's certainly not something I'd bet any money on.Well, it worked for me and Deep Space Nine - didn't like it at first, read "Making of Deep Space Nine" by Judtih and Garfield Reeves, and I came to appreciate all the details. Hey - actual experience with D&D also showed me that maybe - just maybe - an "ablative" hit point system isn't as stupid as it sounds after coming from a *cough* realistic *cough* system like Shadowrun. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />My take on video games and "real" role playing games is this:Both are games. That's why there are similarities. There are many universal problems of game design. It's no surprise that some solutions look similar. But don't let this fool you into believing they are all the same. Using the 3E or 4E Core Rulebooks as a base for a computer game doesn't necessarily give you the actual feel of sitting at the game table. What looks similar on paper can be very different depending on whether you use it in a computer game with scripted events and a 3D graphics engine, and 500 other players just on your server, or with a DM, 3 other players and your imagination. Hell, pick the 3E Core rulebooks and play a game as a member of any groups of the following posters: - With Celebrim- With Raven Crowking- With hong- With pemerton- With me.There will be so many differences. Sometimes you like it, sometimes you'll hate it. And it's all the same rules.</blockquote>

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