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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AllisterH" data-source="post: 4300226" data-attributes="member: 51325">Very well explained post about what people think about videogames and 3e/4e.I'm actually going to defend BOTH 3e and 4e from this claim.That said, I tend to disagree on this specific point since ironically enough, I think the proponents of this claim ALSO forget that D&D was videogamey BEFORE we had videogames.Reason why I say this is because look at Gygax old group. They were ALL spellcasters, nobody playeed the rogue and the fighter as they were the henchmen. So what does that say about THAT group?As well, spellcasters were the one class pre 3E that could be said to have any meaningful character choices thanks to their spells. Check out how Gygax described how new spells were added to the game. People in his old group just came up with ideas for spells and they were added.I would charge that even pre 1E, D&D was videogamey based on the fact that people were expected to actually only play the whizbang classes.</blockquote>