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<blockquote data-quote="Hawken" data-source="post: 4303041" data-attributes="member: 23619">Re: WizarDru,Maybe I just had more tolerant gamers or maybe they just didn't gripe as much. Definitely there were gripes though and attempts to house rule an improvement or fix a perceived problem. But for all the arguments, debates, gripes and discussions, back then, there was no question that it was D&amp;D we were playing. Now, it seems that folks are split down the middle as far as whether 4e is actually D&amp;D or just a pen and paper video game that someone slapped the letters D&amp;D on top of. Actually, every gamer I know personally is not taking up 4e and are sticking with 3.5 for the foreseeable future. Most of them don't even consider 4e to be actual D&amp;D. Legally, it may be. Physically, it may have the name, but to many I know, the &quot;spirit&quot; of the game (that intangible quality that all of us may know but none can accurately and completely describe) is absent in 4e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hawken, post: 4303041, member: 23619"] Re: WizarDru, Maybe I just had more tolerant gamers or maybe they just didn't gripe as much. Definitely there were gripes though and attempts to house rule an improvement or fix a perceived problem. But for all the arguments, debates, gripes and discussions, back then, there was no question that it was D&D we were playing. Now, it seems that folks are split down the middle as far as whether 4e is actually D&D or just a pen and paper video game that someone slapped the letters D&D on top of. Actually, every gamer I know personally is not taking up 4e and are sticking with 3.5 for the foreseeable future. Most of them don't even consider 4e to be actual D&D. Legally, it may be. Physically, it may have the name, but to many I know, the "spirit" of the game (that intangible quality that all of us may know but none can accurately and completely describe) is absent in 4e. [/QUOTE]

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