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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arilyn" data-source="post: 7369724" data-attributes="member: 6816042">I have listened to podcasts of actual play, as well as interviews with the PF designers. It's really obvious that PF2 is coming off Pathfinder. It's still way crunchier than 5e, has lots of choices for character creation, numerical bonuses and penalties, etc. Paizo revolves around PF and feel it is time to make a better PF.  Of course there will be some similarities to DnD, as they branch off the same tree, so to speak. Paizo is absolutely not putting their own spin on 5e. This makes no sense. PF occupies a different niche, as it's the crunchy, lots of options version vs. the lighter, looser rules of 5e. It would be stupid for Paizo to make another version of 5e, as they'd lose their current fans and not be able to compete with the DnD brand name. Other than a few areas where designers tackled problems in similar ways, the comparison between the games will only be that they are both F20 games. I really don't understand why you believe Paizo is sneakily basing PF2 on 5e. Why would they do this?</blockquote>