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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 7160910" data-attributes="member: 2011">I don't see how this helps much except maybe for the wizard (and even then it interferes with mage armor).Hide is worse than studded leather except for cost (and 1 pound of weight) and only one AC better than leather.Ring mail requires 13 Str and for 20 GP less, it's the same as Scale mail (without the Dex bonus which actually makes it worse for some PCs/NPCs).For PCs, this houserule makes little sense, except maybe at first level and even then, starting equipment for each class tends to be as good (e.g. Rangers get scale mail starting out, so why would they want ring mail?). Maybe in those rare circumstances where the DM captures and PCs and take all of their stuff, but still...For an NPC army on a budget, it makes more sense. But if you are outfitting an army, chances are these are already semi-trained troops and Ring Mail would be an option anyway. If they have little or no training, why are you creating an army of total scrubs? Just to see them get killed? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool&nbsp; &nbsp; :cool:"&nbsp; data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 7160910, member: 2011"] I don't see how this helps much except maybe for the wizard (and even then it interferes with mage armor). Hide is worse than studded leather except for cost (and 1 pound of weight) and only one AC better than leather. Ring mail requires 13 Str and for 20 GP less, it's the same as Scale mail (without the Dex bonus which actually makes it worse for some PCs/NPCs). For PCs, this houserule makes little sense, except maybe at first level and even then, starting equipment for each class tends to be as good (e.g. Rangers get scale mail starting out, so why would they want ring mail?). Maybe in those rare circumstances where the DM captures and PCs and take all of their stuff, but still... For an NPC army on a budget, it makes more sense. But if you are outfitting an army, chances are these are already semi-trained troops and Ring Mail would be an option anyway. If they have little or no training, why are you creating an army of total scrubs? Just to see them get killed? :cool: [/QUOTE]

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