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<blockquote data-quote="Drawmack" data-source="post: 796818" data-attributes="member: 4981"><p>A player is free to build their own PrC. Though they must spend time training and refining the abilities of that PrC which often makes it not probable to do in game except in a 1 on 1 scenario. As far as how the PrCs came to be they were usually an evolution of a conglomeration of sorts. Here is one possible scenario of a PrC history and attchement to an organization.</p><p></p><p><strong>Arcane Archer</strong></p><p>In the days of old three elvin borthers Yinthral, Elthindar and Olandra formed a training school for adventurers. Each of the brothers had their own specialty. Yinthral was a wizard who specialized in enchanting items. Elthindar was a master archer and Olandra was a clerical scribe for Corellon Lorathon. Yinthral and Elthindar taught the students their respective specialties which combined into a unique style of adventurer while Elthindar taught the students of elvin mythology and heritage. As such only elvin and some half-elvin students were allowed into the school as non-elvin peoples were not allowed to learn the sacred knowledge that Olandra gave them. During the time of arcane banishment the school went underground becoming a small society who fancies themselves protectors of the elvin way. To get into this organization today a person must not only be a practiced warrior and spell caster but must also be invited to join and sponsored by a current member. To become a member the student must memorize the history of the organization, many rituals of the organization and swear a vow to uphold the principles of the organization and defend his brothers. The members recognize each other by rings worn on the left pinky finger.</p><p></p><p>I believe this answers the question, if there is still confusion let me know. BTW: this was off the cuff and is probably full of spelling and grammatical errors.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes I believe that premise was flawed, because of what I believe the PrC should represent, which is some sort of affiliation with an individual or organization. The fact is that when looking for a spy the organization or individual is going to seek out a certain type of individual. They probably don't want a ranger for the job but a bard or rogue with a couple levels of fighter or spell caster might work. Maybe I was a bit strict with the all classes thing. Maybe each one should have a list of classes and you main (highest level) class must be one of those classes to qualify. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I did warn that my original post was not in the spirit of the thread. However, I will attempt to answer this. In all honesty the answer is I do not know. I have never had a player request a PrC that I felt was unbalanced and I find that there are so many PrCs that I only deal with the ones players request. I think I agree with the increased spellcasting at each level being too much but I can also see where this would not be. Maybe it's a PrC designed specifically for the ranger. So I allower their ranger casting to increase at each level and replace the rangers special abilities with other abilities they get as they level. Though this appears broken when taken by a class other then it was originally inteded for as indeed it is. Except for the most basic of concepts it is nearly impossible to balance a PrC under all possible class combinations that can take it without placing explicit limits on those combinations. In other words, without the only x classes can join the system breaks down when looked at with a muchkin's eyes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Drawmack, post: 796818, member: 4981"] A player is free to build their own PrC. Though they must spend time training and refining the abilities of that PrC which often makes it not probable to do in game except in a 1 on 1 scenario. As far as how the PrCs came to be they were usually an evolution of a conglomeration of sorts. Here is one possible scenario of a PrC history and attchement to an organization. [b]Arcane Archer[/b] In the days of old three elvin borthers Yinthral, Elthindar and Olandra formed a training school for adventurers. Each of the brothers had their own specialty. Yinthral was a wizard who specialized in enchanting items. Elthindar was a master archer and Olandra was a clerical scribe for Corellon Lorathon. Yinthral and Elthindar taught the students their respective specialties which combined into a unique style of adventurer while Elthindar taught the students of elvin mythology and heritage. As such only elvin and some half-elvin students were allowed into the school as non-elvin peoples were not allowed to learn the sacred knowledge that Olandra gave them. During the time of arcane banishment the school went underground becoming a small society who fancies themselves protectors of the elvin way. To get into this organization today a person must not only be a practiced warrior and spell caster but must also be invited to join and sponsored by a current member. To become a member the student must memorize the history of the organization, many rituals of the organization and swear a vow to uphold the principles of the organization and defend his brothers. The members recognize each other by rings worn on the left pinky finger. I believe this answers the question, if there is still confusion let me know. BTW: this was off the cuff and is probably full of spelling and grammatical errors. Yes I believe that premise was flawed, because of what I believe the PrC should represent, which is some sort of affiliation with an individual or organization. The fact is that when looking for a spy the organization or individual is going to seek out a certain type of individual. They probably don't want a ranger for the job but a bard or rogue with a couple levels of fighter or spell caster might work. Maybe I was a bit strict with the all classes thing. Maybe each one should have a list of classes and you main (highest level) class must be one of those classes to qualify. I did warn that my original post was not in the spirit of the thread. However, I will attempt to answer this. In all honesty the answer is I do not know. I have never had a player request a PrC that I felt was unbalanced and I find that there are so many PrCs that I only deal with the ones players request. I think I agree with the increased spellcasting at each level being too much but I can also see where this would not be. Maybe it's a PrC designed specifically for the ranger. So I allower their ranger casting to increase at each level and replace the rangers special abilities with other abilities they get as they level. Though this appears broken when taken by a class other then it was originally inteded for as indeed it is. Except for the most basic of concepts it is nearly impossible to balance a PrC under all possible class combinations that can take it without placing explicit limits on those combinations. In other words, without the only x classes can join the system breaks down when looked at with a muchkin's eyes. [/QUOTE]
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