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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Timeron Malachi" data-source="post: 2647352" data-attributes="member: 32251">One of my favorite characters was a Monk/Paladin with the Vows of Peace, Nonviolence, and Poverty, and he was one of my favorite characters. He made a great party leader, and that included a Frenzied Berserker, I think. I mean, the way I see it, if I'm playing a neutral good figher, and someone wants to play a neutral evil assassin, or even a lawful neutral assassin, he's making *me* subvert my character, RP-wise, for the sake of party-cohesion. Well, that's the sort of thing you talk about with your fellow-players before you start the game.Friar Francis McGavin was sort of a random character on my part, but since the other players knew what I wanted to do from the start, and the DM had the ability to actually look past BAB and see Diplomacy and Knowledge skills as being useful, the game was fine.</blockquote>