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What qualifies a creature as an extraplanar outsider, an extraplanar animal/humanoid/etc or an extraplanar native outsider?
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<blockquote data-quote="VelvetViolet" data-source="post: 6271576" data-attributes="member: 6686357"><p>I know what the extraplanar and native subtypes are. I mean an "outsider (native)" that is native to a plane other than the material. <a href="https://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20040613a&page=2" target="_blank">Neraphim </a>are an example: their type is "outsider (native)" but they are native to the outer plane Limbo and have no innate connection to the material plane. They would, oxymoronically, have both the extraplanar and native subtypes while on the material plane.</p><p></p><p>So the native subtype is essentially meaningless because it can be and is applied to outsiders that are native to the outer planes in official WotC material, much less in 3rd party material.</p><p></p><p>Also, extraplanar non-outsiders are not rare at all, they're the <em>default </em>form of life on the outer planes. The fiendish, celestial, entropic, and resolute creature templates state that they are used to represent planar versions of material animals and humanoids and whatnot, which are stated to be quite common on the outer planes. So the outsider type does not automatically apply to creatures from the outer planes and is actually quite rare as a type itself.</p><p></p><p>Considering how the type/subtype is applied arbitrarily, inconsistently and incoherently even in official products, how am I supposed to decide what type would be most appropriate when designing a planar creature from scratch?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="VelvetViolet, post: 6271576, member: 6686357"] I know what the extraplanar and native subtypes are. I mean an "outsider (native)" that is native to a plane other than the material. [URL="https://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20040613a&page=2"]Neraphim [/URL]are an example: their type is "outsider (native)" but they are native to the outer plane Limbo and have no innate connection to the material plane. They would, oxymoronically, have both the extraplanar and native subtypes while on the material plane. So the native subtype is essentially meaningless because it can be and is applied to outsiders that are native to the outer planes in official WotC material, much less in 3rd party material. Also, extraplanar non-outsiders are not rare at all, they're the [I]default [/I]form of life on the outer planes. The fiendish, celestial, entropic, and resolute creature templates state that they are used to represent planar versions of material animals and humanoids and whatnot, which are stated to be quite common on the outer planes. So the outsider type does not automatically apply to creatures from the outer planes and is actually quite rare as a type itself. Considering how the type/subtype is applied arbitrarily, inconsistently and incoherently even in official products, how am I supposed to decide what type would be most appropriate when designing a planar creature from scratch? [/QUOTE]
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