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Message: <blockquote data-quote="VelvetViolet" data-source="post: 6273134" data-attributes="member: 6686357">Don't forget that outsiders all use the same hit dice and skills despite having just as much variety as all the other types combined.But what determines whether a creature created on/from another plane has soul duality or not? Celestial/fiendish/etc creatures are just as much creations of their planes as celestials and fiends are, yet they have soul duality. Devourers can be created from fiends (when they weren't evil mortal spellcasters), which turns them into undead, and casting a resurrection or true resurrection spell on them turns them back into the fiends they were before (since fiends are living creatures healed by positive energy). At several points it is even stated that the "homeworld of the fey" is another plane of existence, yet fey are their own type instead of outsiders (and have the same problem of being an amorphous blob that all other types can be fit into with no effort).Outsiders just seem to have a particularly stronger connection to their plane than other creatures also born of it, but the name/description is still confusing since it implies all creatures not of the material plane are outsiders even though this isn't true. Maybe if the outsider type was replaced with, I don't know, the "exemplar" type, representing beings that are avatars of their plane in the same way that deities have avatars, as opposed to any random creature born of/from that plane? Celestials, Fiends, Elementals, Genies, Axioms (axiomites, inevitables), Anarchs (proteans, chaosiic), and Equilibrants (aeons, etc) would qualify as exemplars, while stench kows (evil cattle of the lower planes) and Stygian leviathans (giant whales that swim the River Styx) would be magical beasts and planetouched would be humanoids with the planetouched subtype.</blockquote>

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