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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Moonstone Spider" data-source="post: 3052519" data-attributes="member: 40079">The Vampire thread got me thinking on this.  What LA+ races or templates are actually worth the penalties of hitdice, saves, skills, etc. and for what classes do they work?I'd put forward the Pixie as a possible candidate.  Small Size, somewhat weak DR and Spell Resistance, fast flight speed, massive attribute boosts to all but STR, several powerful spell-like abilities, permanent invisibility.  As a Rogue you can sneak attack every single strike because you're invisible so all your enemies are always flat-footed to you (Aside from the rare fellow with blindfight).  +4 or +5 or +6 LA depending on the source you're going to and the pixie abilities you pick.</blockquote>