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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrankTrollman" data-source="post: 1130254" data-attributes="member: 14225">What difference does it make? And while I admit that of the six infinite power loops in 3.5, I am personally responsible for originally discovering three of them (and know the guy who invented the Free Vacation on the Negative Energy Plane: No Save), the point is that they exist.Infinite Power is objectively game breaking. Large amounts of power can be subjectively game breaking, but will be balanced in other games.For example, let's take the Wizard Archmage who throws spells at a DC of 34. He's very powerful, but is he too powerful? If the Fighter in your game has this +4 warhammer he's fond of - that Wizard is probably over the top. If the Fighter in your game has an Artifact grade vorpal scimitar of ruin - the Wizard probably isn't particularly noticable.So when they do things to powerful feats, abilities, and classes - it doesn't help things over all. In some games, tweaking down the wizard is going to reign in an over-powered madman. In other games it's going to step on a balanced character and leave him asking why he's playing at all.The only thing which can be done to game balance to make it better is to curb things which are objectively overpowered. That wasn't done in 3.5. In fact, quite the opposite.We didn't used to be able to do Balor Mining and Phoenix Duplication and now we can. Or rather, we still can't because every DM has to house rule those in order to keep the campaign from going crazy-go-nuts.And more required house rules = a worse rules set. Period. End of discussion.-Frank</blockquote>

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