Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7102530" data-attributes="member: 6704184">Nah, you're just reading that into it. Your assertion, by implication, that everyone should obviously know already that the rule had been clarified, is supremely unreasonable. Obviously most folks who disagreed won't have seen it yet.  That...isn't confrontational. Or rather, no more so than any other statement of disagreement. "I don't know where the "PCs know where you are if you haven't taken the hide action even though you are invisible" comes from. Jeremy Crawford just clarified in a podcast that it's not true, nor is it the intent. " You really want to tell me that you this statement doesn't imply that people should already know about that clarification? Seriously? and then call me confrontational when I tell you such an expectation is unreasonable? lol c'mon, man. And, btw, if you think that the rules state that an invisible creature is automatically hidden, simply by virtue of being hidden...you are incorrect. See...the thread you linked earlier. They might be hidden, or not, depending on the circumstance, and thus DM discretion. Simply turning invisible right in front of someone doesn't make you Hidden, just invisible. Circumstance, can, however, make you hidden, regardless of invisibility or taking an action to hide. Not being physically seen just isn't enough, by itself to make that happen. Which is literally all I was saying, and which you haven't contradicted, so I'm not sure why you think that "people who are ruling Invisible creatures to automatically be hidden simply because they are invisibleare still wrong, or houseruling it." was directed at you, rather than just clarifying what the rule is, in the context of a thread about rules people commonly get wrong. Do you see what happened there? I, in a thread about rules people misapply or mistake, clarified a rule and referenced the fact that there are people who mistake or misapply that rule. I don't see why I should have needed to be any more clear about it than I was, but nonetheless I apologize for the confusion.</blockquote>

Verification