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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 7105171" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>They kind of do. The hide action in the combat section. It details the process for becoming hidden while unseen.</p><p></p><p>The attack action details how to belt something with a sword. The cast a spell action details how to cast a spell.</p><p></p><p>Jeremy Crawford was clear if you wish to become hidden you must take the hide action (as a general rule). Of course there may be situations where the invisible creature is 100 feet away and in the radius of silence spell. Then it is up to the Dungeon Master to intervene; in corner cases.</p><p></p><p>In a standard dungeon encounter (40 x 40 stone room, 10 foot wide corridor leading off to the South etc) featuring an invisible creature (or any other creature that is unseen such as by being in total cover or in heavy obscurement), <em>that creature is not hidden unless and until it takes the hide action as a general rule.</em></p><p></p><p>To be hidden you must be both unseen and unheard and all the signs of your presence must also be concealed (footsteps splashing in puddles as you run, or leaving muddy footprints or tracks in the snow, or pushing aside long grass or branches as you move etc).</p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong; there are definitely corner cases where a Dungeon Master is required to intervene. But the general rule is invisibility does not equal being hidden. It just fulfills the 'unseen' requirement that allows one to take the Hide action.</p><p></p><p>It's successful use of the Hide action while unseen that makes one hidden.</p><p></p><p>Those are the rules for hiding. Become unseen, and then take the Hide action. Successfully roll higher on your stealth check than the passive perception of nearby observers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 7105171, member: 6788736"] They kind of do. The hide action in the combat section. It details the process for becoming hidden while unseen. The attack action details how to belt something with a sword. The cast a spell action details how to cast a spell. Jeremy Crawford was clear if you wish to become hidden you must take the hide action (as a general rule). Of course there may be situations where the invisible creature is 100 feet away and in the radius of silence spell. Then it is up to the Dungeon Master to intervene; in corner cases. In a standard dungeon encounter (40 x 40 stone room, 10 foot wide corridor leading off to the South etc) featuring an invisible creature (or any other creature that is unseen such as by being in total cover or in heavy obscurement), [I]that creature is not hidden unless and until it takes the hide action as a general rule.[/I] To be hidden you must be both unseen and unheard and all the signs of your presence must also be concealed (footsteps splashing in puddles as you run, or leaving muddy footprints or tracks in the snow, or pushing aside long grass or branches as you move etc). Don't get me wrong; there are definitely corner cases where a Dungeon Master is required to intervene. But the general rule is invisibility does not equal being hidden. It just fulfills the 'unseen' requirement that allows one to take the Hide action. It's successful use of the Hide action while unseen that makes one hidden. Those are the rules for hiding. Become unseen, and then take the Hide action. Successfully roll higher on your stealth check than the passive perception of nearby observers. [/QUOTE]
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