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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7105291" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Oofta, can you provide an example where something is attempting to evade detection that does not draw on the definition of the hide action? IOW, can you provide an example of something trying to hide (not the action, the plain English word) that does not fit within the definition of the Hide Action?</p><p></p><p>In my mind, just because you aren't flat out stating "I take the Hide Action" isn't actually required for a Hide Action to be taken. Just like you don't have to flat out state, "I am using Persuasion" in order to trigger a Persuasion check.</p><p></p><p>And, out of curiousity, if the Invisible Stalker in our example isn't using the Hide action, and a PC actively uses a Perception action, what is the DC? While we might quibble over whether or not Passive Perception detects the presence of the invisible enemy, we do still have to set a DC for an active check. What is the DC, and how did you come by it.</p><p></p><p>Additionally, earlier, someone mentioned traps like a trip wire. Funny thing is, Passive Perception TOTALLY spots trip wires. Trip Wires and traps are AUTOMATICALLY detected so long as your Passive Perception is high enough. That's straight out of the rules. So, what's the difference? Why can I spot a trip wire that's hidden in the brush, but, I cannot detect an invisible enemy? What action is that trip wire taking or not taking?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7105291, member: 22779"] Oofta, can you provide an example where something is attempting to evade detection that does not draw on the definition of the hide action? IOW, can you provide an example of something trying to hide (not the action, the plain English word) that does not fit within the definition of the Hide Action? In my mind, just because you aren't flat out stating "I take the Hide Action" isn't actually required for a Hide Action to be taken. Just like you don't have to flat out state, "I am using Persuasion" in order to trigger a Persuasion check. And, out of curiousity, if the Invisible Stalker in our example isn't using the Hide action, and a PC actively uses a Perception action, what is the DC? While we might quibble over whether or not Passive Perception detects the presence of the invisible enemy, we do still have to set a DC for an active check. What is the DC, and how did you come by it. Additionally, earlier, someone mentioned traps like a trip wire. Funny thing is, Passive Perception TOTALLY spots trip wires. Trip Wires and traps are AUTOMATICALLY detected so long as your Passive Perception is high enough. That's straight out of the rules. So, what's the difference? Why can I spot a trip wire that's hidden in the brush, but, I cannot detect an invisible enemy? What action is that trip wire taking or not taking? [/QUOTE]
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