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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7108829" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>Is there anything new here other than neener-neener-I'm-right-you're-wrong?</p><p></p><p>We disagree on how to do some things. That's fine. I think there are situations where an invisible object would be undetectable. You don't.</p><p></p><p>Cool! We have different ways of running the game. This situation is not covered by the rules because the PCs are not in combat. You run your game your way, I'll run it mine, we are both following the rules (or lack therein). </p><p></p><p>If the gargoyle goes to attack, then we roll for initiative and start checking perceptions/stealth as it stirs and gets read to attack. Until that point no one is in combat, no one is threatened. It's an area not covered by the rules, and therefore left to the DM to rule as they see fit.</p><p></p><p>In the vast majority of cases the PCs would have a chance to detect the gargoyle if combat starts, but there will always be edge cases so I'm not going to say it could never happen. It's the DM's call because the rules on hiding do not specify you have to take the hide action to avoid detection.</p><p></p><p>Which is my way of saying "neener-neener-we can-both-be-right-so-what's-the-fuss-all-about".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7108829, member: 6801845"] Is there anything new here other than neener-neener-I'm-right-you're-wrong? We disagree on how to do some things. That's fine. I think there are situations where an invisible object would be undetectable. You don't. Cool! We have different ways of running the game. This situation is not covered by the rules because the PCs are not in combat. You run your game your way, I'll run it mine, we are both following the rules (or lack therein). If the gargoyle goes to attack, then we roll for initiative and start checking perceptions/stealth as it stirs and gets read to attack. Until that point no one is in combat, no one is threatened. It's an area not covered by the rules, and therefore left to the DM to rule as they see fit. In the vast majority of cases the PCs would have a chance to detect the gargoyle if combat starts, but there will always be edge cases so I'm not going to say it could never happen. It's the DM's call because the rules on hiding do not specify you have to take the hide action to avoid detection. Which is my way of saying "neener-neener-we can-both-be-right-so-what's-the-fuss-all-about". [/QUOTE]
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