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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stone Angel" data-source="post: 1952526" data-attributes="member: 5630">The Complete Warrior has a few things called Tactical feats or something anyway a monk in my game had them that allowed a character two sizes smaller to climb on a creatures back and be able to attack them flat footed. Note I hate this feat and would give him the hardest time about it. But my point is that this sort of thing is not unfeasible. Can I ask what his reasoning would be for starting this manuever? Now onto my story before the Psionics handbook came out in 3.0 I had let a character run on the wall for a bit then make an attack using the mantis leap out of Sword and Fist.There was a sentry on an opposing battlement that one character had distracted he slipped over the opposite wall took out the other sentry but the mage had forgotten to cast spider climb on him as he got caught up in the planning situation. So he reasoned he could run jump then jump off the wall to make an attack I always encourage this since it makes it more fun and cinematic.My stipulations were this. Character had to at least make half of his movement (to be at full speed) had to make jump check dc 20 climb check dc 25 another jump check at dc 25 needless to say he pulled it off with flying colors.In 3.5 one character has a wizard, this player is notorious for doing this manuever in any game regardless of system at least once. The running two footed dropkick. This time his whole intent is to knock them back into a chasm. He reasoned that with his weight and momentum he could knock this Gnoll adept into the chasm if he used his staff as his torque. My stipulations were this at least ten feet for charge balance check dc 15 attack at a -4 penalty (so a net -2 after factoring the charge) and then a bull rush attempt with 1.5x str bonus. No AoO unless he failed. And he failed and was blarrged the next round by the Gnolls henchmen. The Seraph of Earth and Stone</blockquote>

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