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Message: <blockquote data-quote="scourger" data-source="post: 3253379" data-attributes="member: 12328">Ultimate changes got my vote, but mainly because I now prefer Savage Worlds to D&D.  Within d20, I prefer 3.0 to 3.5, though; so small changes don't appeal.  For me, 4e has got to be simpler.  The current system is too complicated in the aggregate.  Each part is cool, such as feats and magic.  But taken together it's too much to run--especially as levels increase.  Simplifying the magic and reducing the amounts of it would make me more interested.  I think this is the direction that 4e will take, based on the success of D&D minis.  The Star Wars Saga Edition may harbinger some of the 4e directions.  There are some "sacred cows" of D&D, however.  Concepts like classes, hit points and saving throws.  Those names will be preserved at a minimum.  The mechanics may be different, but the concepts will remain.  Also, the system has to be expandable in some ways.  The company has to be able to continue to print & sell products.  That's not bad.  It's just business.  So, some things will have to be somewhat complicated in order to support expansion.</blockquote>