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<blockquote data-quote="GreatLemur" data-source="post: 3780091" data-attributes="member: 28553"><p>I don't think anyone's objection to that style of psychic flavor is that the <em>idea or tone is too new</em>, but rather that its trappings don't really have a place alongside fantasy tropes. Uri Geller wasn't a character from 1970s fantasy novels; he was a character from 1970s <em>talk shows</em>.</p><p></p><p>But by summoning up Geller in the first place I was being woefully imprecise in my condemnation. I'm not aware of anything in current or past psionics rules about bending spoons or fixing watches. What I meant to suggest was a general objection to D&D incarnations of the kinds of "psychic" phenomena that people have--in living memory and in first-world countries--actually believed in and tried to codify through various flavors of bad science or flat-out pseudoscience. So when I see psionic items (a weird concept to start with) frequently made out of crystal, I roll my eyes and think of it as New Age stupidity. (And, to be honest, the whole crystal thing is something that could more accurately be blamed on Edgar Cayce than Uri Geller.)</p><p></p><p>I'd really like to see psionic flavor looking more towards the mantras and spiritual weapons of Hindu myth, the tulpas of Tibetan mysticism, and so on.</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't try and take away the astral projection stuff, though. While it's <em>thoroughly</em> New-Agey, it's got an obvious mythic foundation, and an existing history with D&D that cannot be ignored.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreatLemur, post: 3780091, member: 28553"] I don't think anyone's objection to that style of psychic flavor is that the [i]idea or tone is too new[/i], but rather that its trappings don't really have a place alongside fantasy tropes. Uri Geller wasn't a character from 1970s fantasy novels; he was a character from 1970s [i]talk shows[/i]. But by summoning up Geller in the first place I was being woefully imprecise in my condemnation. I'm not aware of anything in current or past psionics rules about bending spoons or fixing watches. What I meant to suggest was a general objection to D&D incarnations of the kinds of "psychic" phenomena that people have--in living memory and in first-world countries--actually believed in and tried to codify through various flavors of bad science or flat-out pseudoscience. So when I see psionic items (a weird concept to start with) frequently made out of crystal, I roll my eyes and think of it as New Age stupidity. (And, to be honest, the whole crystal thing is something that could more accurately be blamed on Edgar Cayce than Uri Geller.) I'd really like to see psionic flavor looking more towards the mantras and spiritual weapons of Hindu myth, the tulpas of Tibetan mysticism, and so on. I wouldn't try and take away the astral projection stuff, though. While it's [i]thoroughly[/i] New-Agey, it's got an obvious mythic foundation, and an existing history with D&D that cannot be ignored. [/QUOTE]
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