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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 3781410" data-attributes="member: 14506">You completely misunderstand my stance. I said this:I bolded the applicable text. Psions in 3.5 are off base thematically. I hope I don't have to explain this to you.Placing images in or removing images from the mind are not Illusions in the traditional sense they are phantasms by D&D lingo terms. Phantasms should absolutely be a part of the Telepath's arsenal but the other 4/5ths of the illusion school should not. They should have nothing to do with figments, patterns, shadows, and glammers. Summoning giant gem monsters from the astral plane, ectoplasmic cocoons, launching tons of crystal shards at people, shooting tornadoes at people... please, give me a break.Here is a partial list of the current themes that the psion is dealing with:shapchanging healing (restoration, regeneration)telepathytime manipulation (time hop, temporal acceleration, quintessence- fold time in on itself!)astral stuffgem stufffireballs (w/lightning bolts, cold rays, bursts, cones, walls etc)disintegrateteleportationself buffing create a demi-planefuse flesh (wtf?)telling the futureTheir scope is too big for their breeches! Not to mention the powers are very haphazardly thrown together into the disciplines. I don't mind the telekinetic guy heating metal, or having a chill metal like effect even catching them on fire or freezing them briefly as a targeted non-area effect power would be fine with me (high level and part of the telekinetic). But basing a whole class on the, "catch you on fire freeze you" is bad- especially the 3.5 implementation of it. Here is my list again. Overlap in the three types should be minimal. 1. Telepathy (mind control, astral projection, mind reading, psychic blasts, improved mental capabilities, mind-blade, precognition etc.)2. Telekinesis (force like effects: shields, walls, blasts, bigby's hands, "mage" hand, levitate himself, fly himself etc.)3. Body control (heal self, physical improvements, improved senses, monk-like abilities, transform arm into a weapon, make himself light as a feather, bio-electric shocks, energy absorption etc.)Time/reality manipulation should be a wizard's forte not a psion's.Energy/element manipulation should be a wizard's forte not a psion's.Teleportation should be a wizard's forte not a psion's.Physical drain attacks should be a warlock/necromancer's forte not a psion's.Mental drain attacks should be a psion's forte.Telekinesis/force manipulation should be a psion's forte.Telepathy/mind manipulation should be a psion's forte.Here is my list for each role (damn these would be cool) unique from the wizard and very potent still:Controller: Psion - Controlling enemies via either Telepathy or Telekinesis. Capable of a wide variety of effects. Telekinetic Force blasts knocking opponents back, telepathic psychic attacks stunning enemies briefly, and both creating battle fieldeffects to alter the flows of the fight.Leader: Apothecary - Body control leaders use their powers to absorb the damage and effects from others and then heal themselves. They also use their uncanny senses to gain and give bonuses on the battle field.Defender: Psychic Warrior - Using Telepathy and Telekinesis, the character fights and defends using powers. Telekinetic psychic warriors access powers that give him a telekinetic weapon that can be summoned to his hand and uses telekinetic force fields and shields and walls to defend himself and those around him. Telepathic defenders, use psychic energy blades and use their mental powers to know what the enemy is going to do before they do it.Striker: Monk - Using body manipulation to be extremely fast and utilize their hands as weapons. The character can move in strike and exit quickly. Their tremendous host of body control abilities gives the ability to accomplish many feats others could not.I think a telepathic psychic warrior would be sooooooo sweet.</blockquote>

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