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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9352279" data-attributes="member: 7030563">No because you don't get that on other classes (sorcerer or cleric) that are as good a platform for it.&nbsp; Also in 1E I regularly had people complaining that magic-user was not powerful enough, even at high level when they were better balanced.&nbsp; On the other hand I have never had any players in games I am playing complain about their class&nbsp; being too weak.In 5E a Sorcerer will actually make for a more powerful caster at high level than a Wizard will.4E was the most successful attempt at balance, the least successful commercially, the least popular and arguably the least fun for the most people.If balance mattered 4E would have been more popular I thinkI think you are in the minority of players that care about balance.&nbsp; Perhaps not the minority of people posting on internet forums, but the minority of people playing I think.&nbsp; I have had very few people I play with actually talk about imbalance at all and I have had no one who I played 5E with complain about&nbsp; it.Then what?&nbsp; I enjoy the game when I am the most powerful PC at the table and the least powerful PC at the table.&nbsp; IME players MUCH prefer rolling abilities to other methods (DMs prefer PB) and this leads to all kinds of power imbalance, even on an identical build.You know what I don't enjoy as a player - Barbarians and Druids, and I am not too keen on Artificers.&nbsp; So I never play aBarbarian or Druid and I rarely play and Artificer.&nbsp;&nbsp; I play Rangers and Rogues the most.&nbsp; I play lots of Wizards, lots of Fighters and lots of Monks and I have played these three at every level of the game.&nbsp; I play other classes occasionally and I've been playing a lot of Bards lately after playing only 1 in the first 8 years of 5E.I don't &quot;only enjoy the game when I play a stronger class&quot; but when I am playing a Wizard (or a Sorcerer or a Cleric) in a campaign covering many levels, I do like the fact that it is a powerful class, more powerful than most, and that is often part of the build or theme I am using with that character.&nbsp; That does not mean I don't play weaker classes&nbsp; or enjoy the game more when playing a weaker class.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9352279, member: 7030563"] No because you don't get that on other classes (sorcerer or cleric) that are as good a platform for it. Also in 1E I regularly had people complaining that magic-user was not powerful enough, even at high level when they were better balanced. On the other hand I have never had any players in games I am playing complain about their class being too weak. In 5E a Sorcerer will actually make for a more powerful caster at high level than a Wizard will. 4E was the most successful attempt at balance, the least successful commercially, the least popular and arguably the least fun for the most people. If balance mattered 4E would have been more popular I think I think you are in the minority of players that care about balance. Perhaps not the minority of people posting on internet forums, but the minority of people playing I think. I have had very few people I play with actually talk about imbalance at all and I have had no one who I played 5E with complain about it. Then what? I enjoy the game when I am the most powerful PC at the table and the least powerful PC at the table. IME players MUCH prefer rolling abilities to other methods (DMs prefer PB) and this leads to all kinds of power imbalance, even on an identical build. You know what I don't enjoy as a player - Barbarians and Druids, and I am not too keen on Artificers. So I never play aBarbarian or Druid and I rarely play and Artificer. I play Rangers and Rogues the most. I play lots of Wizards, lots of Fighters and lots of Monks and I have played these three at every level of the game. I play other classes occasionally and I've been playing a lot of Bards lately after playing only 1 in the first 8 years of 5E. I don't [I]"only enjoy the game when I play a stronger class" [/I]but when I am playing a Wizard (or a Sorcerer or a Cleric) in a campaign covering many levels, I do like the fact that it is a powerful class, more powerful than most, and that is often part of the build or theme I am using with that character. That does not mean I don't play weaker classes or enjoy the game more when playing a weaker class. [/QUOTE]

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