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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ezo" data-source="post: 9356502" data-attributes="member: 7037866">Yep! Should be goal #1.Yep (#2)! A +10 to Stealth, in addition to other benefits (no tracks, virtually, unlimited targets, long duration) is, frankly, insane. When you consider most creatures have a passive Perception of 10, it makes you (and others) virtually undetectable.Yep (#3)!Need I say it again? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Totally. IMO a martial PC at twice the level a caster needs to be to cast a spells should have a reasonable chance of defeating it. For example, arcane lock is 2nd level, so a wizard must be 3rd level to cast it; therefore a rogue of 6th level (twice 3rd) should be able to disable the lock.At 6th level, a rogue with Expertise in thieves' tools and DEX 20 would be +11 to disable a DC 25 (15 + 10 for arcane lock) lock would need a 14 or better, so 35% chance. Not bad, really, but many DMs would rule a failure means no further attempts, so why the PC shouldn't be automatically able to disarm it, the chances should be better IMO.Now, if arcane lock imposed disadvantage instead, then magic such as enchance ability would effectively cancel the penalty. Regardless, the expert lock-picker above would have about a 72% chance of by-passing the magically-enhanced lock (with disadvantage) at DC 15 (not 25). A non-expert, say at +7, would have a 42% chance or so, compared to the 65% they would normally have vs. a DC 15 lock. So, the spell (as disadvantage) would decrease the thief's chances by over 20%.Not to bad for a 2nd-level spell that lasts indefinitely otherwise...Spells like pass without trace and arcane lock with +10 bumps are too strong IMO.Or overcome those spells the Rangers and Druids might use...Again, a spell like enhance ability is a great example. Such a spell can remove the Stealth disadvantage for heavy armor, or help others without proficiency or decent Dex scores. It only affects one PC as a 2nd-level spell, but is a bit harsh to require concentration IMO.As for group checks, a group only need half successes to succeed as a group. This is a way where the expert Rogue or skilled Ranger, Bard, etc. CAN help the clumsy or inept party member. The theory is the group succeeds because those who excel help those to might faulter.One final YEP!</blockquote>

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