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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9356530" data-attributes="member: 7030563">Because players like the OP spells.&nbsp; No one wants a weaker Spirit Guardians, Spike Growth, Fear or Counterspell.&nbsp; The biggest complaints about Counterspell I've heard from players is the back-door nerf WOTC did by replacing spells in monster stat blocks with things that are not spells.&nbsp; Players complained about this multiple times at tables I play on.I don't think players even want a weaker Shield or Simulacrum which are the worst offenders.&nbsp; Sheild is so good you have characters, often martial characters, taking a 1-level dip to get it.Also when it comes to balance and player preferences, I think there are far, far more players playing martials that want to be able to get an OP Shield spell on a 1-level multiclass than there are players playing martials but dislike how powerful Shield is.&nbsp; So it is not just people playing full casters that you are going to upset or nerf by making powerful spells less powerful.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9356530, member: 7030563"] Because players like the OP spells. No one wants a weaker Spirit Guardians, Spike Growth, Fear or Counterspell. The biggest complaints about Counterspell I've heard from players is the back-door nerf WOTC did by replacing spells in monster stat blocks with things that are not spells. Players complained about this multiple times at tables I play on. I don't think players even want a weaker Shield or Simulacrum which are the worst offenders. Sheild is so good you have characters, often martial characters, taking a 1-level dip to get it. Also when it comes to balance and player preferences, I think there are far, far more players playing martials that want to be able to get an OP Shield spell on a 1-level multiclass than there are players playing martials but dislike how powerful Shield is. So it is not just people playing full casters that you are going to upset or nerf by making powerful spells less powerful. [/QUOTE]

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