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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Willie the Duck" data-source="post: 9610308" data-attributes="member: 6799660">D&D has certainly paid a price for magic being reliable modular rule-changes that rarely risk anything other than opportunity cost, rarely take more than one game-time-unit, come in large option arsenals, and are all recoverable overnight (+ maybe 10 minutes/spell level reading time).There's rarely as much continuous pushback against the magic-nonmagic dichotomy with game systems where spells cost HP, or can cause you to suffer/explode/become corrupt*, or take days to cast, or you can only generally solve 1-5 types of problems with being a caster at any given time, etc.*these often have their own issues, depending on implementation (such as all-or-nothing consequences, wide differences in GM interpretation, or long-term consequences being meaningless in one-offs).I've long-since thought that some spells would simply work better outside that framework. Spells like Earthquake have slowly gotten less impressive (until it is more like 'localized earth tremor') once the worldbuilding consequences had to be taken into account. Well, what if it was a spell that took two weeks of casting to make happen*? Now every wizard can't just invalidate castles*. Likewise, each edition we keep having another Wish hornets nest of limits and word parsing and loopholes and an inevitable infinite loop**. That one I think would work better as simply following the rules for magic item crafting, rather than spellcasting.*kinda like the 'cast every day for a year to make permanent' spells in 5e **unless they are hidden underground in precise locations for two weeks, which is a great plot hook***or toothless consequence, like simulacrum doing it for you or the ageless race in wishes-age-you editionsI think that's the other side of the coin. Spells are also 'such a big problem*' for D&D because D&D traditionally gates off large swaths of activity behind magic-only (or magic-only-consistently, or magic-only-well-defined).*YMMV</blockquote>

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