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<blockquote data-quote="kigmatzomat" data-source="post: 9228697" data-attributes="member: 9254">To me the essence of a &quot;real world&quot; bard was that they were historians who kept oral histories.&nbsp; One of the Norse who memorized the Eddas or a Jewish rabbi who could recite the Talmud could both be bards.&nbsp; Depending on the tales, exceptional individuals of both those traditions could do magic.&nbsp; Music to &quot;tame the savage beast&quot; is a classic concept.&nbsp; Modern fiction, like from Mercedes Lackey, continues the theme.They are skewed toward fey but perhaps that's just the nature of things.&nbsp; Fae are often linked to magical music, control of emotions, knowing tales &amp; secrets, etc which are the province of bards.&nbsp; &nbsp;I like the 5e bard because the subclasses can be so many different bards.&nbsp; Enchanting, dangerous with a blade, skilled, knowledgeable, sneaky, etc.&nbsp; A party of all bards is plausible with Magic Secrets.&nbsp; I would note that Chris Pines played a rogue, whose background was &quot;spy&quot; and cover was being a minstrel.&nbsp; He was a bard in name only.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kigmatzomat, post: 9228697, member: 9254"] To me the essence of a "real world" bard was that they were historians who kept oral histories. One of the Norse who memorized the Eddas or a Jewish rabbi who could recite the Talmud could both be bards. Depending on the tales, exceptional individuals of both those traditions could do magic. Music to "tame the savage beast" is a classic concept. Modern fiction, like from Mercedes Lackey, continues the theme. They are skewed toward fey but perhaps that's just the nature of things. Fae are often linked to magical music, control of emotions, knowing tales & secrets, etc which are the province of bards. I like the 5e bard because the subclasses can be so many different bards. Enchanting, dangerous with a blade, skilled, knowledgeable, sneaky, etc. A party of all bards is plausible with Magic Secrets. I would note that Chris Pines played a rogue, whose background was "spy" and cover was being a minstrel. He was a bard in name only. [/QUOTE]

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