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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 3041282" data-attributes="member: 4134">The same goes for Eberron, of course. To rephrase it: Do we kick loyal fans in the nuts or not? That's what using Eberron would amount to, unless they leave out the optional races, optional classes, optional stuff like magic trains, different faith and cosmology and all that. At that point, you can as well stick with GH.Exactly. I think it's likely they'd alienate more customers than get new ones. Especially since they could have their cake and eat it, too: Use GH (or nothing) as baseline and make an Eberron Campaign setting. Fans of normal D&D will be happy not to have Eberron shoved down their throats, and those who actually want it would have to get the Campaign Setting, anyway (as all that setting info won't fit into the core books)They can give both an equal treatment, but they won't put the Realms on slow burn.Face it: as much as funky new stuff and extreme far out extremeness is wanted, there will always be a demand for vanilla D&D. And for vanilla D&D, there's the Realms as fully supported setting.I guess Wizards know that if they push Eberron too hard, the fans will push back.And I don't agree that the Realms are at a dead end. Recent books like Lost Empires, Power of Faerûn, Dragons of Faerûn show that they can do a lot.Plus, there's always regional supplements, both for unexplored areas and for those who were covered in very old FR books.It still doesn't make it a good choice for the standard setting.One of D&Ds strengths, in my opinion, is that you're not bound to a certain world that is hard-wired into the setting. Sure, it does make some assumptions about magic level and the like, but you're not told the capital of the world is Metropolis the Big City (or anything).Greyhawk as presented is pretty bland: you have your normal races somewhere, you have your wizards and fighters and stuff. There's nothing you wouldn't think out of place in, say, Middle Earth (arguably the best-known fantasy world).So if it is to be any standard setting, it has to be something like they're doing now: No actual standard world, only borrowing stuff from GH.If you install Eberron as standard, the game won't be D&D any more - it will be The Eberron RPG.</blockquote>

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