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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6025391" data-attributes="member: 42582">It's not clear how this sort of thing fits with the d20 roll for skill checks. I mean, in the real world its virtually impossible for an untrained person to perform even routine surgery, whereas a trained surgeon will not botch it 1 time in 20 - there may be complications 1 time in 20 (or more, even) - infections, mostly - but these aren't well-modelled by the D&D skill system, which tends to what immediate success/failure.The problem with this is, again, the d20. No one's maxmimum jump varies between 3' and 13'. And no Olympian, capable of jumping 29', loses 10' on his/her maximum one time in twenty. Variations are measured in inches, not feet.As with surgery, so with professional athletics: if you want a skill system to measure it, the 3E/4e style one is not what you're looking for.</blockquote>