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<blockquote data-quote="ART!" data-source="post: 8236990" data-attributes="member: 79926"><p>I find these very useful for thinking about my character <em>as I'm making them</em>, but after chargen I rarely look at them.</p><p></p><p>If you're not railroading the story, then your players have agency. Maybe you think milestone leveling is inherently railroad-y?</p><p></p><p>Like so many things in D&D, milestone leveling is an abstraction I'm prepared to accept in the interest of not getting lost in the weeds.</p><p></p><p>There is no "issue" of milestone leveling - either it works for you or it doesn't.</p><p></p><p>My group's been playing 5E weekly for over 4 years, we've used milestone leveling only, and are having a blast.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Speaking from fairly recent personal experience in a game where the players and characters had very little agency (the DM had a story he wanted to basically just walk us through, and didn't tell us this ahead of time), agency is everything. It got to the point where we would have our characters try to do fairly basic things and the DM would just ignore us or say "No." <em>That's</em> a lack of agency.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Lots of things in D&D are left to DM fiat. Milestone leveling frees the DM up from tracking XP, and tracking XP is a deal-breaker for some DMs.</p><p></p><p>One of the advantages of milestone leveling is that it levels the playing field between players who are very social and proactive/aggressive and players who are less so. </p><p></p><p>So, like Indiana Jones and practically every pop-culture action hero ever? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ART!, post: 8236990, member: 79926"] I find these very useful for thinking about my character [I]as I'm making them[/I], but after chargen I rarely look at them. If you're not railroading the story, then your players have agency. Maybe you think milestone leveling is inherently railroad-y? Like so many things in D&D, milestone leveling is an abstraction I'm prepared to accept in the interest of not getting lost in the weeds. There is no "issue" of milestone leveling - either it works for you or it doesn't. My group's been playing 5E weekly for over 4 years, we've used milestone leveling only, and are having a blast. Speaking from fairly recent personal experience in a game where the players and characters had very little agency (the DM had a story he wanted to basically just walk us through, and didn't tell us this ahead of time), agency is everything. It got to the point where we would have our characters try to do fairly basic things and the DM would just ignore us or say "No." [I]That's[/I] a lack of agency. Lots of things in D&D are left to DM fiat. Milestone leveling frees the DM up from tracking XP, and tracking XP is a deal-breaker for some DMs. One of the advantages of milestone leveling is that it levels the playing field between players who are very social and proactive/aggressive and players who are less so. So, like Indiana Jones and practically every pop-culture action hero ever? ;) [/QUOTE]
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