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<blockquote data-quote="Scott Christian" data-source="post: 8244263" data-attributes="member: 6901101"><p>I guess my question is why? Why is it painful for you? And why do you not understand that their sense of realism is a built in mechanic? In the act of possibly being a hypocrite, I will use myself as an example:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I read the traditional fantasy books as a kid: Shannara, LotR, Dragonlance, etc. From all of these, one of the things I gathered for my sense of fantasy realism was magic has a cost or price, and magic is stronger than muscle. (No problem with wizards scaling stronger than fighters.)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I watched Excalibur a dozen times. My sense of fantasy realism learned that someone can apparently have sex in plate but can barely run ten yards through a shallow river. (No problem with imposed movement penalties, etc. on plate.)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I watched Conan a hundred times. My sense of fantasy realism learned that a strong warrior, male or female, can take out a dozen guards, and that many enemies should die from one or two blows. (No problem with females having high strength and no problem with describing HP loss as wounds.)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I read Elfquest a thousand times. My sense of fantasy realism learned that a 4' tall elf weighing 70 or 80 pounds can be stronger than any human. (No problem with halflings and others having high strength.)</li> </ul><p></p><p>Each of these things imprinted on me to create my sense of fantasy realism. You may not agree with it, but that is exactly what people mean when they discuss realism in a fantasy game. I am sorry that you take it as such a literal thing, but I have never seen an argument that was purely literal when discussing fantasy realism. Situations might have literal interpretations, but the "realism" of the entire fantasy world has never been argued as strictly literal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scott Christian, post: 8244263, member: 6901101"] I guess my question is why? Why is it painful for you? And why do you not understand that their sense of realism is a built in mechanic? In the act of possibly being a hypocrite, I will use myself as an example: [LIST] [*]I read the traditional fantasy books as a kid: Shannara, LotR, Dragonlance, etc. From all of these, one of the things I gathered for my sense of fantasy realism was magic has a cost or price, and magic is stronger than muscle. (No problem with wizards scaling stronger than fighters.) [*]I watched Excalibur a dozen times. My sense of fantasy realism learned that someone can apparently have sex in plate but can barely run ten yards through a shallow river. (No problem with imposed movement penalties, etc. on plate.) [*]I watched Conan a hundred times. My sense of fantasy realism learned that a strong warrior, male or female, can take out a dozen guards, and that many enemies should die from one or two blows. (No problem with females having high strength and no problem with describing HP loss as wounds.) [*]I read Elfquest a thousand times. My sense of fantasy realism learned that a 4' tall elf weighing 70 or 80 pounds can be stronger than any human. (No problem with halflings and others having high strength.) [/LIST] Each of these things imprinted on me to create my sense of fantasy realism. You may not agree with it, but that is exactly what people mean when they discuss realism in a fantasy game. I am sorry that you take it as such a literal thing, but I have never seen an argument that was purely literal when discussing fantasy realism. Situations might have literal interpretations, but the "realism" of the entire fantasy world has never been argued as strictly literal. [/QUOTE]
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