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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3066135" data-attributes="member: 1656">No, it's assumed that at the end of the 2 minutes, your PC eventually gets a result over the DC of the lock.Let's say I have a +20 Open Locks bonus, and a DC 20 lock.  I could roll a 1 and still open the lock as a full round action.  But if I choose, for some reason, to Take 20, it will take me twenty rounds... and I will fail many times before I succeed... and when I do, the result I open the lock with is 40 ('rolled' 20 + bonus of +20).Even though rolling just once would guarantee opening the lock, I don't get to succeed and stop before the end of the two minutes.  And my eventual result is optimal.Now let's take four locks, with DCs of 20, 30, 40, and 50.  I take 20 on each of them.Lock 1, DC 20: I succeed after two minutes with a result of 40.Lock 2, DC 30: I succeed after two minutes with a result of 40.Lock 3, DC 40: I succeed after two minutes with a result of 40.Lock 4, DC 50: I fail after two minutes with a result of 40.In the first three cases, Taking 20 does not tell me how difficult the locks were; all I know is that the DC was 40 or less.  And that DC is irrelevant to my result - an Open Lock roll of 40.In the last case, Taking 20 tells me that the DC is higher than 40.Now I'll try to Hide from my friend, with a Hide check of +20.  I Take 20.If he sees me, I know that my Hide check is 40, and his Spot check is better than 40.If he doesn't see me, I know that my Hide check is 40, and his Spot check is worse than 40.Just like the locks - my skill check is fixed at 20 + bonus, so all I can judge based on success or failure is "Was the DC (or opposed roll) higher or lower than 20 + bonus?"-Hyp.</blockquote>

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