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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7543723" data-attributes="member: 20564">I gave XP to your post - I think you did a great job of expressing the points in a constructive manner, even if I am more of the opposite opinion.To this I simply agree.  Normally I'm a big fan of adjusting options available in order to support the feel of the setting.  But I'm unsure what will fill the design space if a low magic campaign simply took them out.  Plunking away at mid levels with a light crossbow with a mid-range-at-best DEX doesn't fulfill the design requirements of characters should be able to contribute in combat.From my side it's more of flipping this around - it's about avoiding doing large amounts of non-magical.A caster who casts their three spells over five encounters and spends the rest of the time doing mundane things doesn't feel very magical.  A character who won't cast a utility spell because they need to save the slot for combat (VERY common back in earlier editions) so that they can hold up their end of the combat contribution doesn't feel very magical.And the little bits.  I almost always take cantrips like Prestidigitation, Mage Hand, Thamaturgy, Druidcraft - ones that let me represent my character as magical during other scenes even if there is only occasionally any magical use to it.The issue is that it isn't just "some of the time".  It's the majority of the time, as shown by the numbers int he original post.  If you need to hit double digits just to be able to cast a spell half the time, and that assumes rare usage of spells for anything except combat, that's a big deal.  It's especially noticeable at the lower levels where a lot of campaigns spend much time.It goes back to what I said above - if you have three spells a day total, expect five or so encounters, you are doing magic very little and often won't do any magic in any of the other pillars to keep those slots for life-and-death of combat.This is something I experienced for decades playing AD&D 2nd and 3.x.Thanks, I see you can appreciate the issue even if it's not your primary pushAs a side note, our own playtesting with spells slots showed it wasn't for our table.  We tried at a few different levels and at high levels it lead toward a a lot more casting of high level spells (to pack a lot into few actions) and then casters pushing for 15 minute adventuring days.  But at low levels it worked fairly well.</blockquote>

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